Health experts say axing plan to block sales of tobacco products to next generation will cost thousands of lives

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    Y’know, I gotta admit, I would have never pegged this article as one that would make my notifications go wild. 🤣

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    Lol sounds like this increases tax revenues by increasing the number of addicted smokers buying cigarettes and then taxing the sales.

    Really sound government policy there.

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      They have actually admitted this is going to be revenue gathering. NZ has some of the highest tobacco tax in the world.

      Basically their election promise was tax cuts, which they intended to do by allowing more foriegn ownership of real estate and taxing it.

      After the election they found out they could only govern with the help of a populist party and a libertarian party.

      The populists won’t allow more foriegn ownership of real estate. Meanwhile the libertarians’ wet dream is stuff like more lung cancer tobacco.

      So we get shitty last minute law changes we didn’t see coming, like this one.

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        Wait, they want more foreign ownership of real estate?? Are they high lol. That’s going to price out every last young person there from homes that’s not already priced out.

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        The populists won’t allow more foriegn ownership of real estate.

        I don’t see a single problem here. Fuck, I wish Australia would get behind this.

        Also good, fuck prohibition laws. Leave them in the fucking past where they belong. If I want to slowly kill myself by inhaling burning plant matter, then that’s my decision. The taxes I pay more than cover my eventual cost to the state’s healthcare system. The government does not get to dictate what I do with my own body.

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      Tax revenue that you’ll have to plow right back into the health care system to treat expensive lung cancers. But hey, that’s only 20 years down the line, so you look good now.

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      They just had an election and the government flipped from centre-left to centre-right. It could just be the classic conservative “our position is whatever is the opposite of the left!”

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      Big tobacco doesn’t really need cigarette sales anymore. They are all in on vape brands, where they can sell the liquid at ink-jet prices to customers for a huge markup at $6500 per liter. That’s why you see vape shops on each street corner. The distribution is all streamlined. The website talks to the DHL warehouse about what stock is available, customers can subscribe to weekly delivery plans and the warehouse is filled by some factory in china.

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    New Zealand is scrapping a whole lot of things right now.

    10 years worth of environmental protection laws is another thing being scrapped.

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    Awful reason, but fuck these laws. Declaring a person forever disqualified from what other people will still be allowed to do is obviously not the same thing as ‘you must be 18.’ It is infuriating how many people pretend there’s no difference.

    Ban smoking for everyone or don’t ban smoking. Trying to be “clever” about equality under the law is just fresh discrimination.

    You want money? Tax the companies, not the customers. Take as much as you like. The alternative is, they don’t get to exist.

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    I’m surprised Lemmy has this take. Why is it anyone else’s right to take your right to smoking away?

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      Perhaps it’s not the right to harm ones self that’s the issue. Should you have the right to manufacture, sell, and profit from harm to others? Be it environmental, oral health, lung health, or heart health, cigarettes are a net negative to any citizenry. Seems in a governments best interest to try and greatly reduce and/or eliminate this leech.

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          Unlike cigarettes, cannabis has medical uses and is not nearly as harmful especially if you don’t smoke it (vaping or edibles). It’s not completely safe (hardly any drug is) but it’s on a different level of safe compared to tobacco.

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    New Zealand, highly conservative about drug use, driving, security and relationships, yet will also go to ridiculous lengths to show how cleaning with a wet mop could be better than with a broom, or using one extra layer of building paper is absolutely essential for the structural integrity of the very work flow process that the entire company follows and is actually part of the new management SIX SIGMA protocol.

    Me: “dude, don’t do it, the last guy who touched that broom, he got lost, we haven’t seen him since, but now the brooms come back”

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    This article uncovers an awful cancer of the platform: There are way too many who buy any conservative narrative if you frame it as freedom.