I am a little biased because I’ve been using Debian professionally for many years now but we don’t deserve Debian. It is fantastically stable and reliable and makes an excellent platform for running your services off of. If you are at all interested in offering some time and energy to the open source community, consider adopting a Debian package!
I had to step away from it because packages are just too old.
Have you considered using
testing
instead ofstable
or Siduction?I should be more clear: specifically I was rebuilding a Docker image based on Debian and needed Node.js for one build step, then Ruby for another as well as the final image.
In the
Dockerfile
there were a ton of weird commands for simply installing Node.js and Ruby whereas on Alpine Linux I could simply install the needed versions fromapk
. I understand it’s preferable to build these from scratch but in the case of Node.js I was looking to simply compile a bunch of assets then throw away the layer.I could’ve spent a bunch of time figuring it out for Debian but I wanted a smaller image in the end anyway too.
The packages in Debian are really old. It’s awful.
I was looking at my xzutils package the other month. “So outdated,” I thought, envying the cool hip trendy Arch users.
Yeah, I had to bail. FreeBSD was awesome for stable yet bleeding-edge packages, a perfect blend of downloading binaries and compiling from source (when needed) with everything in sync.
These days I’m using Alpine Linux almost exclusively, but I miss the convenience of FreeBSD and wish it wasn’t being left behind by the Kool Kidz™.
Mentoning Iceweasel in 2024?! Where did you find this meme?! Debian stable?!
I still remember this nice ‘feature’ of XScreenSaver.
However, as of 2016 Iceweasel is Firefox ESR again.
Debian gives you a choice though. If you want stability, install the stable release. If you want newer packages, install the testing release. Just be sure to get security updates from unstable (sid) if you do that.
“stable” in this context means that stuff doesn’t change often. It doesn’t mean “stable” as in reliable / never crashes, although Debian is good at that too.
Getthefuckouttamyfacewiththisridiculousbullshit.
@yak version with alt-text: https://suya.place/objects/4103f07b-da61-4e93-9d27-9ab22fe4ba98