Two men, including one seen looting Lush, are jailed over "12 hours of racist, hate-fuelled mob violence".

Someone looted Lush.

“Don’t worry darling, I got something for you”

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Should be noted that the organiser of the protest who got 5 years

      • was a repeat offender

      • purposely blocked an ambulance, then when asked to let it through said he’d rather any patient inside die than let it through

      • was arrested again during the court case for being in contempt of court

      • said he couldn’t wait to get out and commit more crime

      He didnt really leave the judge much choice. You try telling a judge you want to commit more crime and see how that goes. Plus, purposely blocking an ambulance is a serious crime.

      Plus, while not being illegal, he’ll happily jump on a flight to the US just to attend a wedding, yet moans about poorer people going on holiday abroad. That rubs me the wrong way.

      • steeznson@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Thank you for providing this extra context. I don’t think that people are really interrogating the circumstances properly when they compare sentences. Roger Hallam is a bona fide weirdo too - anyone who has not heard him being interviewed should listen to 5 mins of him describing his worldview.

        • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Yeah, when you actually look at a lot of protest movements lemmy blindly supports they’re deeply problematic in many ways, of course people want easy answers and glib heros so they’ll get mad if you try and demonstrate nuance.

      • Daniel Quinn@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 months ago

        These statements, while true are lacking so many critical details that it borders on disinformation.

        • He was a repeat offender of nonviolent crimes.
        • He was held in contempt after the court refused to allow him to speak to the motivation behind his crime, a key component in any defence of nonviolent civil disobedience.
        • Of course he said he would commit the “crime” again. It’s civil disobedience. What exactly are you expecting? The planet is still on fire and we’re still burning it.

        The ambulance thing is pretty terrible, but when you consider the objective outcome of our current world-burning, it’s not an unexpected perspective. Given a few more years of inaction and profiteering, and the nonviolent actors will start giving up on being civil – especially if the penalty is the same regardless. We’ll be looking back on traffic blocking and orange paint with nostalgia.