Yes, she’s weak pre 6, yes you can dodge her abilities, but once she gets IBG you just can’t interact with her anymore.

Why is she still allowed to take 3/4 of your hp while building full armor, by just landing one basic ability?

If you want damage, you give up durability, or vice versa. This holds true for every champion aside from illaoi.

She’s allowed to rush a tank mythic and force you to recall because she landed 2/10 abilities and almost oneshot you. Even if you won the previous 5 short trades, if she lands a single E, she’ll be full hp again.

Furthermore, Grevious wounds do nothing against illaoi unless you’re already very ahead, because she can will receive full healing from hitting your clone, because hitting your clone doesn’t proc bramble.

If you go executioners, you can apply grevious wounds by fighting her, but if she lands e and presses R, you’ll still hard lose that fight even with Grevious wounds unless you’re very ahead.

It leads to this gameplay loop of frustration where you can out trade her 5 times, then she lands one E, and is full hp again. After she lands the second E, you’re forced to base on most champions.

Because of the above, the counterplay to the champion is to just never interact with her post 6. Either via getting an early tempo lead and perma proxying on a bruiser, or picking a ranked top so you never have to interact with her.

Then she finishes hullbreaker and forces you and your whole team to 1v4 her, because she’s borderline unkillable with IBG/hullbreaker.

Not sure how such an anti fun champion is allowed to exist in this state for such a long time when there’s a very easy fix that doesn’t require any nerfs to her kit or items.

Make it so bramble is proc’d by hitting your clone. This way, dodging the first 6 of her e’s and out trading her actually matters. There has to be some way to make your dmg stick to this champion for it to not be an incredibly unfun experience for every melee champion.

  • ToplanersOPB
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    1 year ago

    I just want a way to proc grev wounds in lane vs your champ so it’s not hopeless short trading vs you as a melee champion.

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      1 year ago

      You should not be winning a short trade versus her on most champions if she grabs your soul. If she doesn’t, you should be basically always winning. With or without Grievous. If you really want Grievous in early laning phase that badly, get an Executioner’s Call or an Oblivion Orb.