I’m someone who for a while has wondered why do first time coaches always see success in year 1 (Judge went 6-10 in year 1 but people liked how the team played down the stretch) only for it to crash and burn in year two and for the fans to rightfully want the head coach fired which it happened. Daboll had a lot of success in year 1, won a playoff game but like coaches past, things fell apart in year 2. However I don’t see much of the vitriol towards the team and the coach as in the past when the year 2 collapse happens. What do you think makes Daboll different than the other coaches that you feel comfortable giving him a longer leash to coach the team. Is it just a gut feeling or simply not wanting to fore another coach after two years? Also where does 2023 rank compared to 2021 and 2017? All three years had some expectations going in and those expectations cratered very quickly.

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    11 months ago

    Differences are:

    1. The coaching staff has not lost the locker room the way it did in 2017 and 2021. Dabes has had my head scratching many times this season to say the least, but there has been no sign of quit. The team is still going out there and competing for him and he has them ready to compete. He isnt out there calling QB sneaks within our own 10 to give our punter 2 extra yards of space. Even though there were times it looked like it could devolve into that, the last few weeks shows that the team still is going out there and competing for him.

    2. The team actually has some major homegrown building blocks on both sides. Obviously the offense needs a lot more, but we have legit core pieces on both sides which we didnt in those other years. Our defense has been clicking lately and its largely on the backs of young guys who will be here for the near future (Dex, Kayvon, McFadden, Banks, Okereke, Flott, Pinnock). On offense we have pieces like JMS/Hyatt/Robinson who are showing signs, we know what AT is, we know Bellinger is a solid piece. What did we have in 2017 and 2021? Both of those teams were largely built through major FA spending to cover up porous drafts. What young building blocks did we have in 2017 besides Odell? Shep, Engram, Collins, maybe Dalvin Tomlinson? 2021 we basically just had Thomas, McKinney, and Azeez (Dex was a solid player but hadnt broken out into what he is, DJ/Saquon we basically had no choice but to run it back with them and they made the best of it). I like the young pieces going forward on this roster way better than the guys we had then. Our last 3 1st round picks leading into 2017 were Flowers, Apple, and Engram for God’s sake. Even if Neal doesnt get close to his draft potential, give me Kayvon and Banks over those 3 any day of the week lol.

    3. Tying into the previous point, those teams were so fucked cap-wise based on the spending from the same regimes. 2016 the team went all out with flashy signings that lasted a season and then crashed in 2017. Then 2021, the team again made flashy signings between Leo, KG, Adoree, and restructuring Bradberry to move money down the road. We have been dealing with the mess ever since and Schoen has been patient waiting for the cap to clear before he makes any sort of splash move. Of course there is the DJ contract but even that has an out after next year. Other than that, the only real long-term signings he has made are Okereke (home run) and Glowinski (which has an out after this year).