One question, on which I really want to know answer why is this happening and really how to fix it, because it’s losing so much games for me

I play Jg/support roles and I have major problem with my team for contesting objectives, standard situation we already have 3 dragon souls, enemy has 0, or maybe 1 in most cases and Baron is up at the same time, and because of my warding I see enemy team going on dragon and free baron (i know it’s free because i am always keeping and eye on ot woth wards).

Because it’s to risky to go and force a fight in unwarded area to contest drake, I start pathing toward baron and pinging for assist on it…but look, nooo 10 sec later my team starts to path to drake when they see full enemy team there, while I am almost at Baron, they go to drake and look at it, they place a ward in dragon pit which is canceled by enemy team control ward and they wait outside the dragon pit and ping me enemy missing at Baron, and what happens every single time

  1. They/we don’t do anything at dragon just stand there outside the pit and enemy takes it

  2. We dive, get some kills but whole team dies, normally since we used our abilities first and were on culdownds so we are beeing overpowered by enemy team, and just sometimes we get drake (sometimes if lucky with timing). And on top of all, when we all die, or even if just 3 or 4 do, enemy goes and pushes lanes before team responsible and can defend

  3. Only in 10% of this situations, we win a fight, maybe lose some allies, maybe even dragon, but we get a ace, maybe we get dragon as well

Now my question is…Wouldn’t be better to take FREE Baron over 1 dragon soul? Especially in that mid stage (25-30 minute) of the game, and when enemy can’t contest baron? And in case we get this 1 dragon soul we should end before giving enemy team option beetwen Baron and Elder or even both in case they kills us at one objective fight and they go and take second one immediately

And if it is better to take Baron instead of 4th dragon soul, how can I tell this to my team, because I tried with pings (danger ping on drake, assist ping on baron+on my way towards baron, I tried even with typing as fast as I can, to explain why Baron is better, but nothing, same thing every game, at exact situation, team just doesn’t listen and they go to dragon.

And if I play as support I ward all around a objectives, 1 hour ago I literally played a game where I warded entire enemy team red side, along with control ward on Baron, and enemy is going to the drake, and my team immediately goes to drake which is unwarded by us as well…this happened twice in that game, I warded Baron twice, it was free twice, but we rather watched enemy getting Dragon and enemy Swain doing Quadra kill on our dives, oh and we also had enemy team lanes pushed all the way toward base, on mid even to the inhib, so I am 100% sure, Baron would be more logical choice then 4th dragon soul

  • VantaBlack2_DevB
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    1 year ago

    Yes, soul is permanent, baron is not.

    If you fail the soul push, enemy team gets baron for a few minutes, fail the baron push, enemy team stacks another dragon and puts you in an awkard spot