In lite of all the super teams forming and big names forcing their way out. Do these trades ever wind up positive for the team squiring the star?

I’ll define a positive trade for a star as getting to the NBA finals in the next two seasons. Since the ultimate goal is to win a title and these teams are moving all-in, in most cases trading away a lot of future picks/assets.

Off the top of head:

  • most successful single season trade lately seems to be Kawhi to the Raptors.

  • Lebron and banana boat crew to Miami also. But already championship with Wade and it’s fucking Lebron James, not just an ordinary all star. I guess you could also include AD to the Lakers

  • of course there was also KD to the Warriors, but they were already champions. They didn’t need him. And that wasn’t a trade, it was free agency signing. (Although, it seems like in enabled the ability to force your way out or resign early.)

There’s been so many busts:

  • All of Harden’s trades
  • all of KD’s moves post Warriors
  • Beal to the Suns doesn’t look great so far
  • Damian Lillard to the Bucks doesn’t look great, when they were championship caliber before.
  • Kawhi and PG to the Clippers has been a busy so far

There seems to be too many changes needed to make a star work. Either they have to change their style, or the entire team roles need to be updated to make it work.

What type of situations does it actually make sense to go all-in? A team on the cusp that just needs that one piece, and one that fits their system perfectly.

  • BeffanatorBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Big 3 Celtics. Without acquaint KG and Allen, Celts would not have won those rings.

  • DaconvixBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Make a post like this after the season is over, not fucking 12 games in

  • GovernmentDoingStuffBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Jrue Holiday was a great move for the Bucks at the time when everyone said they overpaid and I think we’ll feel the same about Dame eventually. We’re 12 games in and the Bucks are playing overall quite well.

    Pau is an obvious W for the Lakers

    Chris Paul to the Clippers was a huge win even though they didn’t win a championship. Years of remaining a top competitor in the west, just were rarely healthy.

    Anthony Davis???

    There’s plenty out there

    • The_Sign_of_ZetaBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      People are remembering the 2-2 start and completely ignoring all the games since then. Bucks are 6-2 since then and 6th in Net Rating. Our “bad offense” is 3rd in ORTG and our “putrid defense” is 10th in DRTG.

      Does that mean much? No. But it means more than our first 4 games did.

      • GovernmentDoingStuffBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Expecting immediate perfection is crazy. Of course in April when Milwaukee is buzzsawing through the East this sub will completely change its tune though

  • xFennySnekBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    You are dead wrong on the Lillard take, he’s playing stellar basketball atm, clearly ramping up to his averages.

    • OklaJoshaOPBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I am. I saw the defensive issue posts at start of season and didn’t look at recent games

      • UnsuspectingS1utBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        For a quick run down of the bucks: Giannis didn’t really have an off-season due to getting surgery, he was cleared to run (not play) like a week before the preseason. So he’s been getting into shape. Dame is integrating into a new team and also appears to have been having injury issues (suddenly missed 2 games after a bunch of stinker performances, now looking fantastic in the last 2 games) and everyone is getting integrated into a new coaches design. The bucks offensive and defensive ratings have both been steadily (albeit slowly) increasing since the season started.

        TLDR: give it time, they’re fine

  • SomeRandom928PersonBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    There’s been so many busts: all of KD’s moves post Warriors

    The Nets not winning wasn’t KD’s fault. Also, it’s been less than full season w/ him on the Suns, plus they are 12-1 in the reg season when KD and Book play together. Definite bust though.

    Beal to the Suns doesn’t look great so far

    Dude strains a back muscle in preseason and it’s already a bust of a trade. Got it.

    This is what I fucking get for sorting by new, I guess.

  • ClutchGamingGuyBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Miami wasn’t really formed through trades, I mean LeBron was traded but as a sign+trade. He was going there in free agency either way.

  • gymtime69BEnglish
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    1 year ago

    How the hell were we championship-caliber when we went out in the 1st round? To an 8th seed?

    And we are 6-1 I believe with Dame… that’s really great considering we just traded for him less than 2 months ago (lack of chemistry). And before you mention defense, we’re 6th in defensive rankings. With two top-5 scorers from last year…