Rasheed Wallace joined The Real Ones on The Ringer with Raja Bell and Logan Murdock Nov. 16 to talk about his career and the increased emphasis on offense.

Around 17:45, he addresses the team’s (and Portland’s) marijuana use, and how the NBA has changed:

"It’s steps as it progresses, not only with the league but just with society. You know back then it was it was welcomed by society for us to be smoking around town.

“You know I think was the whole town smoke. So it wasn’t like ‘oh shit why she why he’s smoking like oh she what’s up She’s like you know hey, I’m hey, what’s up bro’? You know so. That that whole perception of us, you know, being all out of control and and you know this and that.”

Around 23:00, he addresses the Jail Blazers:

“Once they tagged us as the jail Blazers, then the the nation just took that up. And like, I’m like, ‘yo, everybody saying that, you know, we was this, we was that.’ But ain’t nobody ever go to jail. Ain’t nobody ever get in trouble with police around town. You know, It was normal shit. A speeding ticket.”

Around 30:55, he’s asked whether he thinks the 2000 Trail Blazers or championship Pistons are better:

"It’s a it’s a weird question, but like you could be on a team that wins the championship and say ‘Yeah, but that that goddamn Blazers team was loaded.’

“I would have to say Portland because we were younger and you know, we were more athletic in our prime. In Detroit, it was more savvy, you know. It was more veterans.”