• MTLBRICKB
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    1 year ago

    Cash for clunkers scheme destroyed the used car market.

  • lostinheadguyB
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    1 year ago

    Eric Hartman, a retired pilot in Lakewood, Colorado, junked his 2003 diesel Volkswagen Jetta in September in exchange for a rebate on a new Hyundai Kona electric. To qualify, the car needed to be more than 12 years old or have failed an emissions test.

    The problem with these programs is that they are not restricted enough.

    My own ICE would technically qualify for this, since it’s 14 years old now. But there is literally nothing about it that makes it a “clunker”… It’s in great mechanical condition, I get 32 MPG in most highway conditions, it’s a cool enthusiast type car, it fits my needs… Why would I even consider sending it to the scrapyard?

    And this vagueness means that, technically, a 2011 Toyota Corolla (or similar) could qualify. A Corolla is far and away one of the most reliable vehicles on the road, ICE or otherwise. It’s a car that a lower-income individual can just pay for with cash and drive it for many more years with minimal fuss. And yet, to benefit those buying new, it technically is allowed to be scrapped, removing it from the market.

    The sentiment is good but the types of vehicles that qualify need to be restricted to trucks, SUVs, and larger cars.

    • Car-faceB
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      1 year ago

      The main thing these cash for clunkers schemes do is drive up the 2nd hand market by creating artificial scarcity.

      Manufacturers love this shit because coming off the back of supply issues, they can go back to pushing up demand for new vehicles all over again.

      It’s also a scheme that helps people that are already able to afford a new car - people shopping the 2nd hand market aren’t going to be helped, so it’s really not effective as a societal benefit - it just helps people who likely were already shopping for a new car get a slightly more expensive one.

  • intheendof89B
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    1 year ago

    I’ll give you 33 TRILLION reasons we should not be doing this.

  • ginosesto100B
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    1 year ago

    They did that in the great recession, yet here we are again.

  • cheeseplatesupermanB
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    1 year ago

    They already do this in my state. $5,000 for any ICE over 10 years old when you buy an EV

  • TheOtherMikeCaputoB
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    1 year ago

    Do EV sales need a boost? I thought the biggest problem was the inability to meet demand. (I’m in the northeast US). Why not offer tax incentives to businesses (malls, supermarkets, movie theaters, any place where people park for more than 30 minutes) that install charging stations?