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Happy with my newly purchased refurb base 16" M1 Pro direct from Apple, they nailed it with the first in-house gen processors imo. Have a PC for more power, the M3s seem solid upgrades though
Funny to see most Windows laptops mentioned in this article be at least $1000 cheaper
Well the nice thing is that’s $1000 towards replacing it when it becomes a pile of hot (HOT) garbage 2 years down the road.
in what world are are these kinds of laptops obsolete after two years? spoken like someone who’s never used a Windows laptop with these kinds of specs
I draw manufacturing and quality equipment in CAD for a living….I also spec/build all the higher end computers non typical office computers for the business I work for.
I despise windows based laptops. They never last. I have several floating around work with 4xxx series graphics cards and high end CPUs. All they are good for is making heat and throttling while your trying work on a project.
Lol so you’re a manufacturing engineer and also the IT guy?
Stop making shit up rofl.
At least you can run CAD software on windows natively. On Mac you need a virtual machine or remote desktop.
No doubt.
My beef is with trying to use a laptop for extremely resource intensive programs that just cause massive heat, thermal throttling, and delay work getting done at an acceptable rate not with windows or laptops for doing your taxes.
My experience has been the opposite, I bought from a relatively niche brand with no customer support to speak of, cyberpowerpc, and three years later my laptop, 2070S max-P and 10875H, is running great. 78% battery health with good idle and stress thermals.
Do you think your “qualifications” grant your opinion any weight? Lol.
I use all that shit too and my windows laptop has literally zero problems.
40gb ram. 3070.
Easy mode.
I used exclusively Windows up until about age 16, then switched to Linux for a few years, then back to Windows with a Linux dual-boot for development work. I got a 13" 2015 MacBook Pro in 2020, and I’ve used exclusively Mac since then. I have a literal stack of 8 Windows laptops my parents have given me to either fix or recover data from in the last 3-5 years. Windows laptops, even the expensive ones, just do NOT last as long as Macs, even when they were on Intel chips.
Between 2009 and now I’ve owned two Windows laptops: an HP pavillion and an Asus Zenbook which still does its job (from 2017). Both were under $1000. Anecdotes are anecdotes.
Yes yes, more efficiency Kool-Aid for the members
So you don’t think it’s efficient and for people that believe it is efficient we’re “ Kool-Aid drinkers”.
It’s just a laptop you loonie.
It’s efficient, I never said otherwise.
But an equally priced premium windows machine (or a medium for 30% less) with an i7 and 4070 upwards you can get for it will destroy it in every way. Double the RAM, double the storage, upgradeability, repairability, performance, API support, gaming, 3d apps, AI, rendering, Photoshop, etc.
M3 can last longer unplugged, Mac ecosystem and a great screen.
But yeah, I’m a loonie that has a M1 pro and a i5 11gen/3060 and unless I’m browsing or the power is out, the MacBook is in a drawer gathering dust
I’d love this kind of hardware with 32 or 64 gb RAM and windows.
“Efficiency over performance”
Yes! Exactly what I’ve been trying to tell my wife. Thank you, Apple!
Unrelated but, recently I was looking into getting a new MacBook after my m1’s screen cracked and god damn man when did these get so expensive. I got my m1 for like 1099 before tax and now the cheapest one I could find new at the store was like 1499. Man it really is crazy how expensive computers are getting, I got a pretty sweet hp with the latest i7, 1tb ssd, 16 gigs of ram and a solid 27in monitor for like 800 bucks.
love the “thin” craze till they realized how fucking stupid that was. more space = bigger components
It’s a huge laptop and most people who are using it for professional workflows will have it on a power source. I have one myself. I mean I can lay on the couch with my big 16” screen a do video editing but most likely in just gonna relax and surf the web or check emails. If I wanna go work on a big project that requires performance I’m gonna dock it and be a n power with an external display.
I’ve sat on my couch not plugged in with my top spec M1 Pro and I get about 6 hours of video editing and rendering on just battery. Pretty impressive compared to a gaming laptop I have where you can literally watch the battery drop before your eyes while rendering.
the one issue I never had was a low battery. the M1 Max was a workhorse in that way. it would go days between charges, sometimes over a week if work was light
Sounds like you could do the first one with a phone or light tablet and have a second machine that outperforms the laptop with your external display.