Support seems a bit overtuned and although the discussion can go in either direction I was just wondering if it’s the heal itself that is the issue or the characters ability that creates this issue. Cause I have heard from players in both direction where things like zen orb , Ana Nade, Suzu all seem to counter way too much while players have also said it’s impossible to a kill a character that is being pocketed.

So in a scenario where there is no support abilities but still a mercy perma heal who would win?