Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.
Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?
- traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
- xitter for mastodon
- discord for matrix
- youtube for peertube
Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?
Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.
Yes for Lemmy and Mastodon. YouTube has too much good content to skip, I feel like sites that can only rely on advertising to be profitable such as video hosting and search are going to be the hardest things to make fair.
I agree. Youtube is very good content wise and peertube still needs work but I dont think ads are the solution. Imo, some kind of small donation would work. Needs more thought though.
A small donation like YouTube premium? I honestly can’t blame YouTube too much for their monetization strategies. Hosting video is terribly expensive, so some form of compensation will always be required, whether it’s via ads or subscription.
While I agree that some compensation is a good idea, youtubes strategies are nothing but monopolist trash.
Take a large youtuber with 2000 videos. Each one being 20 minutes. That is 1 GB max per video. So 2 tb. With a decent connection we‘re talking 50 bucks for the server per month.
I don’t think you understand how much crap these companies are feeding you.
Simply put, I prefer the freedom of access to more information.
Longer explanation.
- Still have a reddit around to access the “NSFW” labelled posts (all are not porn) and quarantined subreddits (like r/Russia).
- Have Discord and WhatsApp so I do not get cut off society. Yes, cutting yourself off is a speedrun to becoming deranged and conspiratorial, as it prevents challenging your mindset against society and prevents keeping a basic level of tab on current trends.
- YouTube is used through NewPipe, Invidious and ytdlp.
- Have an Amazon account for the rare occasion to buy stuff otherwise hard to get IRL.
No Google, no Apple, no Facebook/Instagram, no Snapchat, no Huawei/Samsung/OEM accounts, none of the other services. I practice what I preach as a serious privacy advocate, and keep things practical.
Sounds pretty good. The reddit thing is kind of relatable as well.
But you can bridge nearly all messenger app to matrix while losening the corpo grip further.
I’ve gone full Lemmy and Mastodon. I’m not going to pretend like Peertube is ever going to be a serious contender. None of my friends are on matrix sadly, so will probably be stuck on sms/discord for a long time.
Two things: peertube is not doing illegal stuff which is how youtube got successful so obviously, people are gonna want to do the right thing if anyone is to have a chance against corpo media. Second, there are matrix bridges for (nearly?) all other platforms (discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal, fbmessenger, etc).
Could you recommend any good tutorials for setting up a bridge?
Trying to make one. Will update
Shit, man, if I went full fedi, I’d have even less to contribute than I already do. We’ve gotta have some external sources of news and knowledge.
I have traded reddit for lemmy and just closed my Meta and Xitter accounts and I’m already feeling a disconnect from society. I’ve been subscribing to new youtube channels and setting up RSS feeds to make up for the lack of connection to current events.
Damn. Relatable though.
Remember that you can bridge matrix with discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal and others to unify your communication on IM/Chat
Otherwise, you could try mastodon. Its cool if you liked old twitter. I do kinda but lemmy is more my cup of tea. Also, feel free to contribute. We need people who bring relevant news to non corpo land.
Yes, thank you. I saw you mention bridging matrix to other services in another comment. I’m definitely intrigued and will investigate that. As for Mastodon, I’ve been wanting to find the time to spin up my own server for that one. I’ll definitely be getting deeper into the fediverse, but I also need outside sources of news, preferably not curated by antagonistic algorithms like Facebook.
News is kind of important, depending on your neurologic configuration. I must limit my news input as to not panic (world stands in flames and such). There are a ton of news sources on mastodon if you are willing to check for them.
On another note: i like to look at allsides.com (i think?) if I want to see balanced news. Otherwise I mostly get updates from lemmy memes. :D
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No, sepia search sucks a lot in my opinion. We need to work on that. But if you have web dev experience, feel free to help with that. :) and you‘re totally correct with the app as well.
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I‘m not sure if I understand you correctly.
I know there is gitlab.com, the commercial site and then there is the open source gitlab you can self host, right?
Working on the code and being a contributor to big open source projects is quite the thing for your cv. I don’t see how a „normal“ open source project could do anything for you except look great on your cv. Because thats the point. Open source is not someone who has to be thankful to you. It is like working on the church in your small town. People work together on it or donate to make it possible.
The „i only give if i get back“ is kind of the reason we‘re in megacorp dystopian hellscape rn.
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I can absolutely understand your frustration, I do. But it has to do with a completely different thing.
Being discriminated against for your degree from a school not deemed „worthy“ and employers not caring about your resumes is cruel and unfair but nothing open source can help you with.
Imo, you‘re pursuing this wrong. Its not „pour all your efforts into open source and you‘ll be successful“ but „occasionally help out if you can to bolster your cv“.
What you are describing is a singular focus that can only lead to burnout and breakdown. It’s not your fault you dont fit their criteria but you need to understand that it’s not anyones fault in particular either.
What you can do though is talk to an HR professional to go over your cv with you and help rewrite it so its more straightforward.
I hope this helps.
- Lemmy 95%. I use Reddit for tech troubleshooting help sometimes but that’s basically it, and I removed my account.
- Never used Twitter. I have a Mastodon account but rarely use it. It’s just not a content format that I’m very interested in.
- Sadly I use Discord still. Matrix is fine, but nearly all my friends use Discord for gaming and related stuff, so I can’t get rid of it without losing basically all my gaming friends and servers.
- Still use YT all the time, but only through apps like NewPipe, FreeTube, and GrayJay. I haven’t signed into YT for well over a year now.
Slowly but surely I’m getting rid of the corpo’s grip on my life.
Congrats! I appreciate every soul we can rip from the corpo claws. 3. There are matrix bridges that can puppet your account. Pretty cool. Though I need to figure out how to use them. Found out this week. 4. Check out peertube. Especially sepiasearch.org. It’s not perfect and you need to accept that they dont have an algorithm so you need to sort by newest or be very specific in your search terms. Trying to get them to add sort by likes, watch numbers or comment numbers. Lets see how that goes.
I’ve heard of bridges but never tried them, I’ll look into them more.
Peertube is pretty cool, just doesn’t have all the creators I watch currently. I do still watch some content on there though.
Awesome idea! They‘re great.
Peertube is great but it needs time.
i haven’t used Reddit since the big migration, and quit Xitter way before then. i still use YouTube a lot, but use NewPipe instead of any app or webpage. can’t stand Discord either way, but use it for a couple MMO guilds i’m in. it sucks that the shitposting scene on Masto isn’t as big as Xitter, or maybe i’m not looking in the right places. (i know jorts.horse has some good posts on their local, but i don’t wanna move from my instance.)
Understandable. But tbf I didnt get xitter so I dont expect to fully get masto. I‘m still happy its there and am impressed that the fediverse is working the way it does.
- Yes
- Yes
- N/A (never used Discord)
- I post to PeerTube, but YouTube still has all of the content so that’s where I go to watch things (via NewPipe & FreeTube though)
Totally relatable. Very curious for the day peertubes discoverability gets better though.
Yes for all except youtube. I use frontends there. LBRY when feasible and there’s not a lot of content creators on PeerTube at least we got “The Linux Experiment”. PeerTube needs a monetization model imo (benefiting content creators and instance hosters). I wouldn’t mind paying a low fee for watching content for instance.
What we need is more people discussing peertube and things like monetization. It has promise (and there are creators on there) but the discoverability sucks. You‘re correct, it needs a lot of work.
i probably can’t go full fedi unless if YouTube stops being a monopoly then i maybe can
Only way against monopolies has always been legislature and thats notoriously slow.
What everyone can do is try something new (like peertube) every now and then. It definitely still needs work though.
Yes, yes, don’t use, always have avoided anyway. I also touch grass more often, which is nice
- I’ll follow a search result to reddit, but I don’t actively browse it.
- Never used either. I created a Mastodon account somewhere once upon a time but never used it.
- My friends use Discord, and aren’t interested in moving. So I use it.
- I don’t post or comment on YouTube, but I do follow a handful of people. Not signed in, just using rss feeds.
Sounds very healthy.
One thing about matrix: it has bridges to most all of the common services (discord, whatsapp, etc) so you can manage all from one account (which is nice) and have a strong argument for your friends. Good hunting! :)
I have. I still use the other ones occasionally for specific topics that don’t get much attention in the fediverse yet (e.g. ufos – I know, I know…), but overall, my main platforms are the fediverse, not the corporate ones.
Congrats! I‘m trying my best to stay off of corpo media but a lot of kinks still need ironing out. Trying to help get peertube to a point where it competes better (since I feel like its very close).
I don’t use anything else, except NewPipe for YouTube. Sometimes I use a Revanced YouTube app without an account, I periodically delete its data and start over again, but no Facebook, xitter, etc. Only true exception is WhatsApp.
Very relatable. Whatsapp is very baked into our lives here as well. There is a solution though. Matrix has bridges for most of the IMs out there. You only use matrix and can chat with most others like discord, whatsapp, signal, telegram etc.
Is it hard to setup? Because it sounds too good to be easy. It doesn’t matter a lot to me, on the contrary, I’m interested in a a setup that centralizes all of my IM apps, and I’m willing to invest efforts to make it happen.
Great attitude! :)
It’s not hard if you selfhosted something before. I just decided to make a video about this since so many people ask how to do it.
You will need a computer that runs 24/7 though. You could technically run it at home but port forwarding is a security risk so you should be pretty advanced to do that.
I‘d rather you rent a small vps at serverhunter.com for 5-10 bucks a month. Please be aware that you need backups. Otherwise you will be sad.
Will try to edit my post when the vid is done.
Only true exception is WhatsApp.
Die heretic!!!
Honestly it’s hard when IM platforms are so fragmented to get the people around you to move over. I never had to convince friends to move to Lemmy to use it.
I think you’re kidding so don’t take this all as a criticism.
You can use matrix bridges now. Theyre awesome
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Youtube: I don’t spend a lot of time watching videos, but when I do it’s still usually on Youtube, as I can’t find what I like anywhere else. I don’t expect to be able to completely ditch this one unless the cost of hosting videos goes down a lot.Facebook: It’s been a few months since I used this one. The only thing I use it for is to send someone a message if I don’t have any contact information aside from their name, which is something the fediverse can’t currently replicate. It’s slowly becoming less relevant as fewer and fewer people in my cohort are active on Facebook.
Twitter: I used this one for less than a year in 2021, and deleted my account in 2022.
Instagram: I made an account on this one a few years ago but never made posts with it, and evetually deleted my account. I don’t use #Pixelfed , because I can post pictures from #Sharkey so I don’t see a reason to make another account.
Reddit: I deleted my account recently. I haven’t made a #Lemmy or #KBin account though obviously I can still interact with them from #Sharkey.
Discord: This is the proprietary social network I use the most. There are a lot of communities that don’t seem to have alternatives elsewhere. I am hopeful for the future of #Matrix , but it still feels like a beta, and I can’t recommend it to people without technical skills.
Tiktok: I haven’t used this in a few years, but I haven’t deleted my account either.
Pinterest: I haven’t used this in a few years, but I haven’t deleted my account either. I’m also not sure what the fediverse alternative is.Zoom: I have to use this for work. I’m hopeful matrix video calls will eventually be a viable replacement.
Fandom: I have stopped making constructive edits, but I kept my account in case I can use it to vandalize wikis or help them leave Fandom. There is no fediverse alternative I’m aware of: just a bunch of self-hosted wikis that can’t interact with each other.
