I’m a new player (500MMR) and it’s clear to me that refresher orb just has no place in this game. Getting completely outplayed? Deserve to lose? No worries! Just buy an item which breaks the games mechanics and gives you double ult!

Where is the item that doubles health or mana? Where is the item that doubles healing/lifesteal? Where is the play that counters refresher orb? Its just the most brainless part of the game.

From -30 seconds every spell used, health lost, ward placed matters. Until someone buys refresher orb and the game just breaks. I am all for coming back from a losing position, but this is dota, the whole point is skill. Refresher orb just sticks out as blatantly not belonging in the game.

Lets look at some similarly priced items. Scythe - hex’s an opponent for a few seconds = similar price. Rapier, dropped on death = similar OP item that has a trade-off, similar price. Wind waker, way more expensive and does a little tornado. Refresher orb - Lets you use every spell twice including ultimate to give your team an advantage they didn’t work for or deserve!

I know people will be replying like ‘you’re wrong’ etc. etc. I love this game, but refresher orb just lets team win games that they have no business winning. We play a hard game for 35/40 mins, edging closer to a victory. For a refresher orb warlock to appear in your base or a faceless to wipe out the entire team with two ults.

‘Skill issue’ ‘git gud’ ‘just learn to check opp has it’ ‘bad defence’ is missing the point. Refresher orb just sticks a middle finger up to every decision you’ve made pre-purchase and says ok we win now. There is not one item even close to the same impact of refresher orb and its relatively cheap, there is no counter play & it ruins enjoyment of the game more than anything. That’s the bottom line. I get outplayed? Sure I happily take a loss. We play much better and then a refresher orb appears and before we know it our ancient is in ruins? Not ok.

What’s worse is that it doesn’t help everyone equally, the opponent gets a refresher orb. Im support ench… What is my counter play? Ping the item in enemy inventory? Nice! it feels fair & balanced and really makes me feel like continuing playing. I have no idea who thought this item up when the rest of the game feels so logical and well thought out.

So my final question is this, who let the intern design an item and who Ok’d it into the game? At least make it drop on death or cost 7/8k. something!

  • Raybomber_B
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    11 months ago

    It’s funny because you’re complaining about an item that has been in the game forever. You also, when comparing it with other itens, didn’t mention the huge cooldown that it has.

    Also, on your MMR, you fight all the time, literally all the time. It’s a bloodbath, so Refresher loses its value even more.

    I’m not going to belittle you because of your MMR, but you need to understand that Dota is one of the most profound competitive games out there. And you are only scratching this knowledge now.

    Refresher isn’t op, it is in fact a great item, with a huge cooldown and a humongous mana cost that makes it nearly unusable for some heroes.