On every ranking and tier list Steph is put above KD. Why is that? Here are their stats since the start of last season

KD: 29.6/6.8/5.1 on 67.2% TS

Steph: 29.5/5.8/5.8 on 66.1% TS

KD has been playing just as well as Steph (arguably better) but he doesn’t ever rated higher. Why?

  • No_Brilliant5888BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I also enjoy casual basketball discourse. Want to be my friend 😀

  • Ilikesporks_BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    idk why people are bringing up the 2022 championship when that has nothing to do with how they’re playing currently

    • honestnbafanBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      People sometimes unironically bring up KD’s move to the Warriors as a reason why he shouldn’t rank highly today lol

      It’s insane

  • FrankerZ_123BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Because KD has a better team and Curry is hard carrying a bad Warriors team

    • AroooooooooooooooBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Def not hard carrying. CP3 and the Warriors bench has been amazing all year. Meanwhile every single starter has a negative plus minus for the year.

      Steph’s shot the ball historically great clip but the rest of his game has slipped noticeably.

  • Fr0_oz3nBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Stop looking at stats and watch basketball.

  • IHateYouKidsBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Two rings w/o KD, 4 total, maybe the greatest 3pt shooter ever, only Unanimous MVP, took a broken franchise to one of th greatest runs in history.

    Numbers ain’t shit.

  • iCE_P0W3RBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    For me personally? It’s Steph’s playmaking and limited offensive support. I’m not pretending like KD has had it easy so far with the Suns, but he’s had a few games with Booker, and the Suns as a unit look more competitive than GSW right now. Klay’s talent is fading and Draymond isn’t as good on defense anymore.

    • honestnbafanBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      So Steph makes his teammates so much better but he’s also better because he has no help?

      Can’t have it both ways lol

    • honestnbafanBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Since when does playing with a worse team inherently make you a better player?

      I swear I see this logic constantly on this sub(with Luka as well) and it’s so severely flawed

      • iCE_P0W3RBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        It’s not “playing with a worse team” it’s “winning with a worse team,” and I think that Steph getting this Warriors team to a manageable record is more impressive than Durant doing something similar with a slightly better roster.

  • cactusmaster69420BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    If we’re being real it’s because he won a ring in 2022 without a ton of help

    • nowhathappenedwasBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      For most fans, it’s because Curry won a ring and FMVP in 2022 while Durant hasn’t won anything since leaving the Warriors.

      For other fans, it’s because Curry is a better offensive player because he has a positive effect on possessions even when he doesn’t touch the ball. impact metric shows Curry being better than Durant before, during, and after their stint together.

      For example:

      • EPM has Curry above Durant every season from 2014-2023

      • RAPTOR has Curry above Durant every season from 2014-2023

      • LEBRON has Curry above Durant every season from 2015-2023 except for 2019

      • 5-Year RAPM has Curry above Durant for every 5-year period from 2012-2016 through 2019-2023.

      • Plies-BEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Curry is legit just a better player than KD is in my opinion. I know a few years ago a lot of people would have said the opposite but Durant had it so fucking easy when he was in Golden State.

        Durant is an all time offensive player but he’s had several series in the playoffs before and after GSW where teams with the right personnel could load up on him and limit his productivity (MEM, GSW and BOS for example). In OKC especially this was a personnel problem as a lot of the time they were playing 3 non-shooters that teams like the Warriors or Grizzlies didn’t have to respect with Westbrook, Adams and Roberson. When he played Boston in 22 they warped their entire defense around keeping him away from his spots and they basically had 5 quality defenders in their starting lineup.

        When he played next to Curry he got all of the 1 on 1 iso’s he wanted because of Curry’s shooting, and as he’s one of the best iso scorers ever he was incredibly efficient in their title runs. So he obviously looked a ton better and won the FMVPs.

        But Curry was and has always been the engine that made that team go. That’s evidenced by the Warriors numbers with KD on and Curry off vs with Curry on and KD off.

        There’s this old Thinking Basketball video that pretty much explains it.

        That being said, I’m not a KD hater or anything. I think its incredible how fucking insanely good he is to still be putting up top tier offensive numbers in terms of volume and efficiency at 35 after injuries and age have turned him basically entirely into a jump shooter with little driving game.

  • costcobathroomBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    the narrative. obviously i love steph but KD is having a career year

  • Inevitable-Paint-650BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Because Curry is currently a bus driver and KD is q bus riders, like it or not. booker is the no.1 option on the Suns

  • 8ball-MJGBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    because this sub is filled with steph stans/KD haters

  • biinroii01BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    bc kd had to snake over to curry, curry never had to snake anywhere

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