The Seahawks have a big issue with time of possession on offense. Here is what the last 3 seasons have looked like.

2021 finished last 2022 finished 31st 2023 currently in last place

Okay so the title is misleading because they didnt finish last in 22’ but It would be lazy to just point at the QB and say thats why our time of possession is terrible. So lets have a discussion, is it due to play calling? Lack of discipline (penalties)? O-line? Is it Pete? What is the one consistent the last 3 years that has led us to this position?

  • danish07B
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    10 months ago

    Make Charbonnet your starting back (even when walker is back). Put Bradford in at guard (better run blocking). Make Bobo your WR2 because dude can block. Run 2 & 3 TE sets all day and run the ball.

    What you’re doing is already losing football. If you’re going to lose, lose the way that you said you wanted to play. Become the physical team you set out to be and go from there.

    PS pray for Abe

  • QuasiContractB
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    10 months ago

    How the fuck had this team spent 2nd rounders the last two drafts on RBs and it cannot run the ball and sustain drives?

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    10 months ago

    The irony is that we were not on the list in 2020 when Russ was “cooking” and Pete specifically mentioned being worried the offense was scoring too fast.

    3rd down conversion rate being low, and scoring on explosive plays are the two biggest contributors obviously.

    3rd down conversion rate is a huge issue and a fairly complex one. Its also not like we are getting to third and short on most drives then failing either, we have a ton of third and longs which means we just have a bad offense. RB and Oline injuries have been an enormous issue for us and not having much QB mobility during that time period makes those two issues much worse.

    People often use the term 1 dimensional to describe NFL offenses that either are missing the running game or the passing game. I would argue that the NFL has in a big way moved past that term as many teams use more advanced play action and rpo schemes with a mixture of QB / WR runs and moving the pocket to blend the run pass games together. The Hawks dont really do any of that, and consequently while I would almost say some offenses are 3 dimensional, ours is as flat as the play book it was written on.

  • RustyCoal950212B
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    10 months ago

    Too lazy to look up the splits on either side of the ball but just gonna throw out that defense is half of the equation here

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    10 months ago

    This is an offense and defense side of things.

    Having studied more of the Seahawks game data, gone and watched a few old games and considering stats like this, I’m starting to form a theory that together with the turnover battle mantra, Pete has embraced a philosophy of prioritising explosive plays. Namely:

    • On defense, Pete is most concerned about defending and stopping the explosive play. This explains the investment in the secondary over the trenches. This explains his bend but don’t break schemes. Pete hates giving up the 50 yard deep bomb. Instead Pete makes the opposition drive down the field with a thousand cuts. Unfortunately that’s exactly what’s been happening and those 98 yard, 15 play, 8 minute drives really rack up TOP against us.

    • On offense, the reverse is true. Pete wants those explosive plays, but safely (as he’s also all about ball security). So he seems to love asking his OCs to draw up deep balls on 3rd down regardless of distance to go and has seemed to prioritise his home run RBs and WR routes over just moving the sticks. Again, these explosive play designs though exciting when they work usually mean short offensive drives and regular 3 and outs, again bad for our TOP.

  • RustyCoal950212B
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    10 months ago

    Time of Possession is a weird stat because it has so many factors. It’s half offense, half defense, and is not only sustaining drives but also pace of play, and run/pass split

    For example a 2 minute drive could be 3 run plays and a punt, or could be an 8 play touchdown drive

    IMO for what people are discussing in this thread, plays/drive is the relevant statistic. Teams that sustain drives average have near 7 plays/drive (multiple first downs), teams that can’t average closer to 5 plays/drive. Seattle’s ranking in that these 3 years

    2021: 5.2 plays, 32nd. Genuinely one of the most boom or bust offenses I’ve ever seen. Usually offenses that barely run 5 plays a drive are terrible

    2022: 5.8, 22nd

    2023: 5.7, 22nd

    So the Geno offenses have been a bit below average here. Broadly speaking i think the biggest issue in 2022 was a very herky-jerky run game (last in the league in success rate). The run game hit enough explosives to be generally speaking ok, but held the offense back from sustaining long drives. This season the main culprit is this team cannot convert 3rd downs. Why that is is up for discussion but it’s basically impossible to run a lot of plays/drive if you’re bottom 5 in the league at converting 3rd downs