I use Firefox and uBlock Origin. Not sure what kind of experience anyone else is having with YouTube, but recently my home page has been empty because I “don’t have watch history turned on”. Okay, fine. I won’t be able to browse suggested videos, and I’ll spend less time on their platform.
Then I began to get warnings about using an adblocker. Okay, fine. I know they need to make money, so I turned off the adblocker. Now when I’m having my time wasted by ads, I have to ask myself, how bad do I really want to watch this video? Not badly enough? I close the tab and spend less time on their platform.
Finally, I began experiencing glitches when playing videos. The video stops, but the audio continues. This never happened before. Perhaps mistakenly, I attribute this to YouTube, which is owned by Google, trying to force me off Firefox and on to Chrome. That was the last straw.
Now I use YouTube to simply follow the channels I’m subscribed to. When I want to watch something, I copy the URL, paste it into YT-DLP, download the video and spend zero time on their platform at all.
To summarize; Now I’m watching zero commercials, and YouTube is streaming the entire video to me, even if I only watch a small portion of it, and they’re collecting less information about my watching habits than ever before.
Nice job, YouTube. Nice job.
The YouTube adblocker battle is going to be a constantly moving target, so take this with a grain of salt as who knows when it’ll break.
I use Firefox with ublock origin and watch directly on YouTube. I don’t sign in, and I track the content I follow via rss. No ads, no nags, no issues.
Piped and similar as well as yt-dlp are also great and are better options for giving YouTube the middle finger, which I fully endorse. Just giving another option.
Ya know, I wouldn’t mind ads,
If google would just FUCKING LISTEN TO MY CURATING DECISIONS!!
No, I’m never going to buy a car based off an ad. Block em all.
No, I’m never switching insurance companies based on an ad.
No, I’m not interested in mobile games. Ever.
And yet when I tell google, block this content, not interested, I don’t want to see this particular topic.
It just doesn’t fucking listen.
You’d think this would be an absolute GOLD MINE of information that google would want, to better focus their ads,.
But they just ignore it,
It’s not about linking people to stuff they are interested in and taking a percentage… it’s about wasting everyone’s fucking time, and then they wonder why people run ad blockers.
What’s funny is Google pushed me to turn off all my targeted ad preferences + watch history on YT. I basically did what you did and they started pushing me PragerU and other weird conservative ads, so I just straight turned everything personalized off. And pretty much stopped using the platform.
Less popular ads can pay more to get shown, so while Google charges by the click, at some point fewer clicks from a less targeted ad at a higher price, can make them more money than more clicks from a more targeted ad at a lower price.
And yet… that’s still less enshittification than with the likes of TikTok. Expect for it to get much worse.
Statistically you will buy that so the ad companies pay google to ignore your prefferences.
Give piped.video a try. Basically a youtube frontend that isn’t ass.
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I love the empty top page. It’s the single best update they’ve ever done.
To YouTube people like you and me are not the intended demographic. We were never going to pay either directly or through watching ads, so they don’t need us.
Allow me to help. Get the libredirect pluggin for Firefox. Go download and install freetube. Set libredirect to direct all YouTube links to freetube. Enjoy!
This. Works great.
My YouTube homepage has been set to the subscriptions tab for 7 years now.
Didn’t know I could do that. Gonna change it now.
To clarify, I changed my bookmark to be the subscription page
Got it.
I use Brave Browser (with Ublock Origin and AdBlock) and rarely have any issues. I do have Freetube downloaded, installed and ready to go for when they escalate their game (and they will). For certain other applications, a youtube downloader can be quite handy.
Ads truly are the most annoying, counterproductive and least creative way of putting yourself out there. Even worse, they can never seem to match an ad with the content it gets forced upon, and this serves only to train people to associate their brand with uselessness and irrelevance. Even if you have a product that is good, you’ve just presented yourself as an obstructing pair of clown shoes and that becomes your first and long-lasting impression. When the time comes that they may need it, most people will not remember your product from that ad, only that your brand is a pair of clown shoes.
The simple truth is, if you have a good product, you do not need advertising. You only need advertising if you have a bad product and you are worried that negative word of mouth will spread faster than you can dupe your share of people into buying it.
Edit: Replaced a word that may be taken as a slur.
In your second sentence, please remove/change the ‘r’ word. It is considered a slur and is not nice. Thanks.
I kind of cringed at that one, too :(
I use Brave Browser (with Ublock Origin and AdBlock) and rarely have any issues.
You don’t have issues because Brave is based on Chromium, which is basically Chrome.
Even though I have premium, YouTube recently has been very hit and miss. Live streams keep buffering for no reason. Some videos failed to play and needed a refresh.
Just odd behaviour all around. In their battle to take out adblockers they destroyed the average viewer experience as well.
Jesucristo. Can you guys just not use YouTube for like a month? Seriously, when they roll out unpopular features, just don’t fucking use it. Why is this all too hard to understand?
YouTube is still the best source for long format content. They’re trying very hard not to be… but still are, for now.
I have been using revanved for years, never really had major issues.
Also just not using the service isn’t going to change anything. I think Reddit was a good example of how companies really don’t listen to their users.
So I’ll just keep using it without ads, once it doesn’t work anymore I’ll just switch to the next solution or stop using YouTube. I do have Nebula so maybe I’ll just, only use that at some point.
Because addiction.
I don’t have my adblocker on and I get the “Your YouTube history is off” message. I cleared my cookies specifically for YouTube and Google. I still get that message.
When I go to Private mode in Firefox, the message disappears. Same thing happens when I change my User Agent in Developer Mode and changing device size.
Makes me wonder how they are specifying my non private tabs…
https://amiunique.org/fingerprint
If you are unique, and keep browsing with the same set of parameters, then they can track you (any web, not just YouTube).
Private tabs tweak some of those parameters to make you appear less unique, so webs have a lower confidence in you being the same person, are less likely to correlate that tab with your actual browsing habits, and less likely to punish you for “past transgressions” like having used an ad blocker.
Private tabs also clear up any data stored in your browser by a given website when you close them (not just cookies or site data, but also whether it has some fonts or tracking pixels in its cache), usually have fewer extensions enabled (each extension and data stored in it can make you more unique), and so on.
Thank you for the information and the link.
Edit: I just ran this. This site basically says I am unique because of I updated my OS on my old computer. There are a lot of other factors but those are the main ones. This is so interesting. I’m gonna do more research on how to mess these variables up. Thank you very much for this. Bookmarked.
This site basically says I am unique because of I updated my OS
The site is more for illustrative purposes, since they don’t have nearly close the same amount of users as large sites like YouTube, and there is no way to know which data points exactly does some website take into account at any given moment or to what level… but you can export the results and compare them between devices, places, over time, or try to mess with them, like you said.
There’s a small army of cookies and local storage data on any of their sites. Private tabs are devoid of cookies and storage data on initial launch which starts YouTube in its default state. Unless you’re clearing cookies and storage every time you visit YouTube they’ll track you.
Thank you for the information.
I won’t be able to browse suggested videos
Whats funny, you do get recommendations on videos, so would be quite easy to grab the last 30 or so videos of your subscriptions and display some of those on the home-page.
But at that point… might aswell switch to Freetube/PipedI use the desktop FreeTube app and watching YouTube works smoothly. On mobile, I use invidious via a browser or Safari in iOS with 1Blocker and NewPipe on Android.
Firefox + uBlock as well and I the only issue tha I have is that YouTube always takes a few seconds to load, before that the page is basically frozen
You could get around the load time by spoofing your useragent to chrome on Windows
I did try that with the extension, but unfortunately didn’t work
If you dont like it and dont want to circumvent it just leave. Dont need to make it hard for yourself.
