• mihies@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Meanwhile Israel is slaughtering tens of thousands civilians with Western blessing, support and weapons. And France is concerned of such a comment? Right.

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      France is concerned of all comments about the war in Gaza. France is the European country with the largest Jewish and Muslim communities. It is trying to navigate this mess in order to keep civil peace in a very very tense context.

      France is backing Israel because it is in dept with Jewish people over its collaboration during WW2 and the help it provided to the Nazis in the hunt of Jewish people.

      France was attacked and is still threatened by Islamist terrorists (Charlie, Nice, Bataclan,…). Hamas is more or less aligned on IS when it comes to Western countries, that is why it is considered a terrorist organization.

      But France is also in dept with Arabs and Muslims. It colonized North Africa for 130 years, led a bloody war in Algeria with lots of war crimes against civilians. It hosts millions of citizen of Arabic and Muslim ancestry and the government cannot pretend their opinionidoesn’t matter (lots of people who are neither Arabs nor Muslim also want Israel to stop bombing Gaza). It has been funding schools and hospitals in Gaza, is dropping food and medicine by air for Gaza’s population. It does not provide any military assistance toI Israel which is not a member of NATO.

      So yes, France needs to regulate public speech to avoid civil unrest and violence at home, while working toward a lasting peace between Palestine and Israel.

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        10 months ago

        I mean what you’re saying is true in general, but backing Israel because they’re “indebted” to Jews is very questionable logic, and I don’t see how it applies to this case.

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          10 months ago

          Nothing logical in all of this. Same as killing each other over who’s allowed to pray where in a 1 km2 area

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          10 months ago

          In debt.

          Meaning many countries (including mine) give Israel a free pass to commit genocide because of something that a completely different generation of people did many years ago.

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            Is this debt officially and legally recognised? Or is it some idealistic notion that liberals have concocted? Because France like all other colonial countries has not paid a dime in reparations. Moreover it continues to deny its former African colonies monetary sovereignty through the CFA. Mali Burkina Faso and Niger could only expel French troops after literal coups. Something tells me France does not give a shit about its debts.

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              No, colonial debts in African countries mean nothing to them. They take their jewish seriously because they are white and the genocide happened in Europe.

              Don’t forget fascism is nothing more than colonialism done in europe. Every single European country did it, but when it was done to them, it became a real problem…

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                In my opinion it’s not the guilt of the Holocaust that is the primary motivator for the support for Israel. Rather it’s about what role Israel plays in the preservation of western (mostly American) hegemony in the Middle East. It’s currently a nexus for western aggression against so many countries that are not allied with them (Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, etc.). Not to say that French foreign policy is not racist.