• jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Here is a partial list ( there were alot of dems that voted no and I got lazy) of racists democrats that voted against the civil rights act of 1964 and when they stopped being reps/senators.  If the parties switched these guys wouldn’t be representing the racists democrats up to 2010.

    George William Andrews 1972 Robert Emmett Jones 1972 Armistead Selden 1968 Wilbur Mills 1976 James Trimble 1966 Robert Sikes 1978 Charles Edward Bennett 1992 Dante Fascell 1992 Paul Rogers 1978 Don Fuqua 1986 Sam Gibbons 1996 George Hagan 1972 Phillip Landrum 1976 Robert Stephens 1976 William Natcher 1994 Joseph Waggonner 1978 Otto Passman 1976 Gillis Long 1986 Jamie Whitten 1994 Lawrence Fountain 1982 David Newton Henderson 1976 Roy Taylor 1976 Joseph Evins 1976 John Patman 1976 Herbert Roberts 1980 Olin Teague 1978 William Poage 1978 James Claude Wright 1989 Grand Wizard Robert Byrd 2010 James Eastland 1978 Sam Ervin 1974 Russell B. Long 1987 John L. McClellan 1977 John Jackson Sparkman 1979 John C. Stennis 1989 Herman Talmadge 1981

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      10 months ago

      I had two history teachers that were active in their parties. The democrat preached the parties switched. The republican showed how they never changed. It’s a myth. Yet the democrats want to white wash history.

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        10 months ago

        …what are you doing, Winter? We’ve been over this. I have the receipts to prove to you using your source that the parties switched.

        It’s really weird how y’all just don’t face facts…

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          10 months ago

          I’d love to see those receipts. Do they include the grand wizard robert byrd lifelong racists Democrat who served until 2010? How about segregationist joe biden?

          Did you miss the wall of democrats that were against the civil rights act of 1964, they faithfully represented their party into the 80s 90s and 2000s. The only thing that could stop them was old age.

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            10 months ago

            Here they are!

            We do discuss that the transition took time.

            The fact of the matter is that the parties switched. That it took time is not the issue. You and Winter are insisting that the switch never happened, which is 100% false.

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              10 months ago

              That’s not much of a receipt.

              You showed a list of 13 reps and senators that switched from Democrat to Republican but only 1 voted against the civil rights act. You provided no evidence as to why they switched or that they are racists. The rest of the racists democrats (over 60) that voted against civil rights act stayed democrats their whole life.

              The grand wizard Robert Byrd represented democrats until his death in 2010. If a devout leader of the Klan is comfortable as a democrat his whole life the racists democrat ideology never left.

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                10 months ago

                That is the whole argument of the switched party myth that is was done out of racism.

                The article says the parties evolved and changed but there was never a switch over racism. Democrats are still racist.

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      10 months ago

      voted against the civil rights act of 1964

      Clearly you didn’t pay attention in history class when they were discussing the southern strategy, and when it took place.

      If the parties switched these guys wouldn’t be representing the racists democrats up to 2010.

      If the parties hadn’t switched, it’d be the democrats flying confederate flags. Instead it’s the republicans.

      Why the fuck would the republicans be flying democratic flags?

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        10 months ago

        Nobody is flying confederate flags. lol. Jesus.

        People fly the flag for southern pride. Your own links confirms that. The majority feel that way.

        This contrasted with polling[52] conducted Morning Consult and Politico right after the George Floyd incident, which showed nearly the opposite - 44 percent of saw the Confederate flag as symbol of Southern pride, and 36 percent saw it as racist.[53]

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          10 months ago

          Nobody is flying confederate flags. lol. Jesus.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_display_of_the_Confederate_battle_flag

          This contrasted with polling[52] conducted Morning Consult and Politico right after the George Floyd incident, which showed nearly the opposite - 44 percent of saw the Confederate flag as symbol of Southern pride, and 36 percent saw it as racist.[53]

          Cherypicking is fun

          The Confederate flag is a controversial symbol for many Americans today. A 2011 Pew Research Center poll revealed that 30% of Americans had a “negative reaction” when “they saw the Confederate flag displayed.”[46] According to the same poll, 9% of Americans had a positive reaction. A majority (58%) did not react. Among black Americans, 41% had a negative reaction, 10% had a positive reaction, and 45% did not. A similar poll taken in 2015 revealed little change from 2011.[47]

          In an October 2013 YouGov poll, a plurality (38%) of those polled disapproved of displaying the flag in public places.[48] In the same poll, a plurality (44%) of those asked viewed the flag as a symbol of racism, with 24% viewing it as exclusively racist and 20% viewing it as both racist and symbolic of pride in the region. 35% viewed it exclusively as a symbol of regional pride.[48]

          In a national survey in 2015 across all races, 57% of Americans believed that the Confederate flag represented Southern pride rather than racism. A similar poll in 2000 had a nearly identical result of 59%. However, poll results from only the South yielded a completely different result: 75% of Southern whites described the flag as a symbol of pride. Conversely, 75% of Southern blacks said the flag symbolized racism.[49]

          Another poll, administered by Economist / YouGov after racially motivated violence in Charleston in August 2017, showed that by a 5% margin – 43% to 38% – the Confederate Flag was viewed as a symbol of southern pride rather than racism. However, participants of color were 32% more likely than their white neighbors to see it as a sign of racism.[50]

          In July 2020, over a month after the George Floyd incident, Quinnipiac released a poll[51] showing that the majority of both Southerners and Americans in general now viewed the Confederate flag as a racist symbol rather than one of heritage, with 55% of Southerners associating the Confederate flag with racism compared to 36% who said the flag a symbol of Southern pride. Closely followed were Americans in general, 56% of whom said the flag was a symbol of racism, with 35% saying it was a symbol of southern pride.

          This contrasted with polling[52] conducted Morning Consult and Politico right after the George Floyd incident, which showed nearly the opposite - 44 percent of saw the Confederate flag as symbol of Southern pride, and 36 percent saw it as racist.

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            10 months ago

            That isn’t the confederate flag. That’s the confederate battle flag. How many times does this have to be explained to you ?

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              10 months ago

              Meanings can and have changed. How many times does this have to be explained to you?

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                10 months ago

                I am not sure why you are being rude. I don’t agree with you. It’s that simple. I understand the concept but I think you are wrong. You have not made a compelling argument and then have liberal tears because people don’t agree with you. Maybe you need to reflect on why people don’t agree with you.

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                  10 months ago

                  I am not sure why you are being rude

                  I’m treating you exactly how you treat me. Want me to treat you better? Fix your attitude.

                  I understand the concept but I think you are wrong. You have not made a compelling argument and then have liberal tears because people don’t agree with you. Maybe you need to reflect on why people don’t agree with you

                  This is what’s known as projection.

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                    10 months ago

                    This is what’s known as projection. Not at all. You are just wrong even backed by your own citation. I get why you struggle in life and isn’t Elon.