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    9 months ago

    Wdym? It’s not like the Nazi crimes are a secret or sth… or unacknowledged within Germany?

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      Then why were nazi officers placed in charge of NATO? Why did the Vatican and the USA rescue hundreds of Nazi officers and give them secret identities, money, security details, and relocate them all over the world? Why did the USA and NATO create “leave-behind” militias from former Nazi groups and Nazi-aligned groups all over Europe? Can Scholz talk about Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, or even just the open history of Nazi officers in NATO?

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          You misunderstand history. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that he was following the USA’s program. His top leaders studied USA implementations of apartheid, eugenics (started in Britain), domestic control, and propaganda. The first gas chambers for large scale murder were the French gassing revolting slaves in Haiti. The USA isn’t run by zombie Hitler, it’s run by the people that Hitler was mimicking.

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              After ww2 nato and the CIA didnt destroy nazism, they absorbed it. The whole usa space program was run by german scientists, among many other things. Learn about the history of Allen Dulles, first civil director of the CIA

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              It’s an unbroken continuous culture, my friend. Forced hysterectomies were official policy through the 1970s to sterilize a third of Puerto Rico and many indigenous women. Black people are overwhelmingly incarcerated, the USA still imprisons more of its population than any other country in history, and it uses those prisoners as slave labor to produce $11 billion in goods and services while also charging them $100 - $300 per day for being in prison. Child separation is still happening in 2024. Immigrants are kept in solitary confinement, which is torture. Alabama just gassed a man to death and every observer said it was torture.

              The USA bombed peasants around the world for decades. North Koreans needed to live in caves to avoid the amount of napalm the USA dropped on them after destroying quite literally every bombable target in the country. The USA continues to engage in collective punishment and uses anti-communism as its reasoning, just like the Nazis did.

              The Banderites in Ukraine. The neo-Nazis in the USA. The Brothers of Italy. It’s all happening right here in the present, in an unbroken line of politics and culture that predates the Third Reich by centuries. The empire the USA inherited from Western Europe (because the USA was led by people from Western Europe) was just as brutal, enslaving, raping, pillaging, and bloodthirsty as the USA was with oppressing the indigenous people who were here and are still here despite the genocide. The USA still supports that genocidal history and still upholds that the genocide gives them the right to the land and to destroy that land. The indigenous are still fighting for their lives against the same USA socio-poitical history that Hitler referenced in Mein Kampf as his model.

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                So is your point that Russia is correctly fighting the Nazis? Because I can’t figure out what any of this has to do with Scholz saying Tucker’s interview with Putin tells an absurd story.

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                  That’s because, like a classic liberal, you jumped into a thread that was making a comment about Scholz, made some vague word noises that implied a position on that topic, and then when you were confronted about the topic with facts you can’t actually handle you need to jump back to the parent topic in order to change the context so you don’t have your fragile worldview challenged.

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                    Lol talk about word noises… Did you get the cum on your toast because that was a fantastic circle jerk…

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        My man, I think Germany has been through some leadership changes between now and 1939.

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        Honestly I would expect that Germany’s history is a reason that current German leadership would be inclined to back Israel even when it isn’t a good move. The Jews weren’t the only victims of the Holocaust, but they were the best known, and Germany wants to be seen supporting Jewish people today because it does not want to be the Germany of old. That doesn’t make it right to back Israel’s actions in Gaza, but it has reasoning to it

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          German history is the cause but not for the reason you say. Germany is just following America’s lead in supporting Israel because ever since their defeat in WW2 West Germany and now Germany have been American vassal states. Germany has the highest concentration of American foreign military bases out of all countries.

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        Comparing things to the Holocaust never helped anyone to gather more support for their cause. Especially in Germany. So good luck with that.