• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Tibet and Xinjiang are literally autonomous ethnic regions that are under local governments of Tibetans and Uighurs, respectively. No one has any concerns about the poor donating plasma or Canadians pushing euthanasia to the poor, but you’re gonna just smear scientists because of Westoid propaganda?

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      Tibet and Xinjiang are part of China because they want to. Can we say the same about Texas?

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      This is the real issue I have with all Chinese reporting: by government policy, they have proportional ethnic representation (and often overrepresent minorities in government in autonomous regions). Yes, it’s still technically the CPC, but it’s like saying that the BC NDP and federal NDP are the same party with the same interests.

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      Who are you adressing? The guardian article refers to retractions in multiple journals.
      Also, people are worried about socioeconomic factors involved in plasma donation and euthanasia. As they should be. These are always important to be aware of and to actively try to preempt.
      These things don’t absolve the retracted papers from criticism. Nor do they exclude any other research from close scrutiny

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    Researchers used samples from populations deemed by experts and campaigners to be vulnerable to exploitation, including Uyghurs and Tibetans

    By this logic, said genetics journal should retract all papers which used samples from black people in the United States and Europe.

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    So basically, you can’t do research on Uyghurs and Tibetans because they’re a vulnerable minority. 😅

    Only han chinese studies are aceptable to the west.

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    9 months ago

    The moment an empire turns on science is the moment it signals its irredeemable collapse.

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      @Omega_Haxors yeah having ethical standards for consent is not that. If anything it’s the opposite.

      I actually do think US/west hegemony is declining but I don’t see having rigorous research standards as an indication of it.

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        Read closer. These aren’t genuine grievances, it’s just right-wingers being racist. Good faith does not come from conspiracy theories.

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          I’m afraid Ockham’s razor leads me to a very different conclusion when it comes to a 2-year investigation by a Wiley journal. YMMV.

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            “I don’t care if it’s racist fascist pseudoscience with no basis in reality, it’s still a useful theory so I’m going to continue to believe it”

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Several of the researchers are associated with public security authorities in China, a fact that “voids any notion of free informed consent”, said Yves Moreau, a professor of engineering at the University of Leuven, in Belgium, who focuses on DNA analysis.

    The article stated that “all individuals provided written informed consent” and that work was approved by the Fudan University ethics committee.

    In Human Rights Watch’s most recent annual report, the campaign group said that the authorities “enforce severe restrictions on freedoms of religion, expression, movement, and assembly”.

    It is considered to be a relatively easy forum for publication, which may have been a draw for Chinese researchers looking to publish in English-language journals, said David Curtis, a professor of genetics at University College London.

    Curtis resigned from his position as editor-in-chief of Annals of Human Genetics, another Wiley journal, after the publisher vetoed a call to consider boycotting Chinese science because of ethical concerns, including those relating to DNA collection.

    In 2023, Elsevier, a Dutch academic publisher, retracted an article based on blood and saliva samples from Uyghur and Kazakh people living in Xinjiang, a region in north-west China where there are also widespread reports of human rights abuses.


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