For some reason I have it in the back of my mind that they were at one point accused of being a honeypot for US intelligence because of their association with MIT. Probably complete BS, but maybe not. Are they as open source as they claim to be? Looks like they’re on github. F-Droid seems to think they have some Google libraries or whatever that they use.
ProtonMail users, how do you like/dislike it?
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Proton AG lost me as a customer the minute they backdoored a binding arbitration clause into their TOS last year.
The difficulty of proving damages in breach of privacy cases combined with generally weak privacy legislation globally means the threat of a class action often serves as one of the only practical deterrents to abuses of power by corporations controlling sensitive personal information. By changing its terms of service, Proton essentially immunized itself from suffering any significant penalty in the event its negligence leads to a mass breach of privacy of its users.
Tactics like the use of binding arbitration clauses are hallmarks of inherently untrustworthy corporations.
My only major complaint is their free-tier is a bit lacking compared to what Skiff had (or I guess has, but not for much longer.) I think their platform is great, and definitely worth paying for, but given I’m a broke college student that’s not much of an option. Also their support for third party clients (or lack thereof) isn’t great, though I don’t use those as much. Otherwise I like it quite a bit!
I’ve had good luck. Reliable and fast as any other service.
I’m a 3rd year subscriber of the Unlimited plan, $158 for 2 years at a time. I utilize the drive, aliases, mail and VPN.
No real complaints. I still use Google calendar because it integrated more with Android phone. I still consider going back to Gmail occasionally for simplicity. I really hate Gmail though but email is garbage. Does it really matter?
I basically priced out good vpn’s, and the two year price of proton was pretty similar to most other quality VPN plans. So why not stick with it and get the rest of the ecosystem too.
I don’t think about it too much, it’s email and it works.
I do not care about secure email because I don’t communicate with anyone else using it, but I do like how it automatically blocks trackers and cleans email links for me.
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- the “ads” aren’t shoved up your ass. It’s not bad.
- their customer service helped me a couple of times. (And a couple of times they didn’t)
- they have a dedicated site for feature requests. Yet, they still choose what they implement and don’t comunicate it perfectly. They’re still a company. They do it better thab most others.
- they don’t artificially limit the features on ine os, because it’s not yet implemented on all. That’s actually a good thing, not a bad one.
- on linux it’s incredibly easy to add a vpn. No idea why we scream for an app.
I don’t like that their open-source repositories, like the android mail app, disabled public issues. Normally lots of good information can be found in issues, like known bugs or reasons why a tracker still exists in the app.
My experience has been fine. If you go into Proton Mail with the understanding that you’re doing it to stop Google from data mining your email, and not for the sake of truly private/anonymous email, you’ll have a good time. The aliasing feature is super nice as well.
What qualifies as being truly private/anonymous email in your book? Or does such a thing even exist?
They are alright. They are no honeypot. You should bring proof if you spread such words.
They publish now and then the source code to their apps and services. They don’t develop publicly.
On the open/closed source issue: how do they stack up against things like Tuta and Signal? The latter I heard was not actually completely open source.
