• arsestackOPB
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    11 months ago

    We’ve also had injury problems. We started without Gabriel and Zinchenko, and Martinelli, Saka and Jesus haven’t started a game together yet. Partey has also been missed and we’ve been integrating two new players. So understandable that we’ve been less fluid.

  • monty_burnsB
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    11 months ago

    How many of Havertz minutes here are as a 9 or false 9? If we’re comparing this set of players, need to compare minutes in the same/similar roles.

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    11 months ago

    Not all of these actions result in recovering possession. You can tackle the ball from an opponent but it can result in a loose ball.

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    11 months ago

    Good point, I’m not sure. The source of the data is here. I guess you could also include aerials won. However, my guess is that recoveries also include collecting loose balls, which could be from another player’s defensive action, so being in the right place to mop up second balls.

    Edit: From opta’s definition, “This is where a player recovers the ball in a situation where neither team has possession or where the ball has been played directly to him by an opponent, thus securing possession for their team.”

  • arsestackOPB
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    11 months ago

    Some take aways which I thought were interesting:

    • Havertz’s underlying data for xG and xA is respectable (slightly better than Xhaka’s from last season and Odegaard’s from this season)
    • His defensive numbers are extremely impressive
    • His main weakness is that he’s on the ball ~25% less than Xhaka and Odegaard
  • ThedudeofmanchesterB
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    11 months ago

    True that, Rice individually is a world class CDM and is better than partey when it comes to CDM role but if anyone asks who is better for the team now which will help them get goals I would say Partey for now. Partey was also one of the key elements last season and our lack of goals this season can also be because of his absence and him playing RB.

  • Houssem-AouarB
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    11 months ago

    Brudda that side is weak because of him, because he ghosts games in possession 💀 people were saying Xhaka was upgradeable last season, but we weren’t calling that Zinchenko, Xhaka and Martinelli side weak

  • potatofamine-carbombB
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    11 months ago

    The best part about this team is you only need one of Saka, Odegaard and Martinelli to put in a 9/10 performance to win a game. It’s fine if the other two have a 6/10 game, which is pretty much the baseline for all three most of the time.

    If two, or Bergkamp forbid, all three of them decide to grace us with a 9/10 performance, oh boy.

  • arsestackOPB
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    11 months ago

    His progressive stats aren’t bad, especially considering he is on the ball less and has played some of his minutes up front. There is only a small difference in key passes and progressive passes, but if you were to adjust to look on a per pass basis it’s even more favourable (for instance, he plays more key passes per pass than Xhaka last season and Odegaard this season). I think the issue is not so much that he’s always going backwards it’s that he’s not on the ball enough.