This has been discussed before, but with the recent news regarding Belicheck being possibly fired (which blows my mind) and Josh McDaniels getting fired (again), it bears repeating.
Bill Belicheck - he’s 87-97 after Tom Brady left.
Charlie Weis - he went 35-27 as the head coach of Notre Dame and 6-22 at Kansas in college after leaving NE. His one year as Florida’s offensive coordinator in 2010 his offense was 102nd.
Josh McDaniels - He went 11-17 as head coach of the Broncos, and 20-33 as head coach of the Raiders after he left NE.
Bill O’Brien - He went 15-9 as Penn State’s head coach, then 52-48 as Houston Texans’ head coach after leaving NE. He did make it the college national championship game with Alabama in 2021 but lost to Georgia.
Romeo Crennel - yes, he’s on the defensive side. However, he went 24-40 as Cleveland’s head coach after leaving New England, then went 4-15 as Kansas City’s head coach and 4-8 as Houston Texans’ head coach.
Eric Mangini - yes, another defensive guy. However, he went 23-25 as the Jets’ head coach after leaving New England and then 10-22 as the Brown’s head coach.
You cannot look at those Texans playoff rosters and tell me BoB is a bad coach. He also brought stability to a Penn State program in desperate need of leadership after the Paterno scandal. I’m not calling him Bill Parcels but he is a good competent coach that has found success outside of Brady.
Didn’t realize Tommy boy was such a defensive genius.
Bill O’Brien took over a Penn State program facing extreme sanctions due to the Sandusky fallout. Using his record at Penn State as any kind of proof that he was exposed without Brady isn’t fair to him.