It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
Not people, conservatives
Not conservatives, regressives.
Literally the same thing
Its not. There are real conservatives who vote democrat/independent and always have. Regressives are always wasteful and intrusive fanatics unlike a genuine conservative. They might not agree with someone but don’t waste their time trying to shove their worldview down someones throat. Just like a lot of people claiming to be woke also do. Both groups are intolerant and annoying.
Your “true conservatives” are about as rare as fucking unicorns
Not really. All you hear on either side of this morass is the squawking fanatics. The fact you think real conservatives are rare is really sad. Its why the false ones need to be labeled regressives. By playing their game you alienate people who otherwise would be an ally.
I’d be much more inclined to believe you if quite literally every single conservative I know except for one person hadn’t gotten completely fucking unhinged over the past few years. So out of my admittedly anecdotal sample size of some tens of conservatives, it’s funny how none of them has managed to be a “real” conservative.
One self-described “moderate” went as far as to tell me that he thinks the world would be a better place if all of us LGBT+ folks just stopped existing.
Definitionally identical
So conservatives are not people, or I misinterpreted your comment?
It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice
Yeah.
It’s not that wild lol
It’s completely wild that… Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
Your comparison is stupid.
@idiomaddict talks about cow milk and soy milk, yet you go on a rant about how “cOw MiLk iS nOrMaL?!!”.
I’m on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
We’ve been eating animals a few million years longer than drinking their milk. (Lactose intolerance is far more common than generally thought.)
how the FUCK do you think babies grow
By drinking human hormone juice and getting their hormones messed with. It’s good and helpful for babies.
The problem is that they give the cows growth hormone and high amounts of estrogen to encourage lactation and it’s in the milk. I’m lactose intolerant like half of adults anyway so I do almond milk and olive oil butter personally.
That doesn’t make any sense. Estrogen wouldn’t even make a cow produce more milk. Are you confusing Estrogen with Prolactin? (which also isn’t given to cows, but would at least have the effect you describe)
None of those chemicals are allowed to be present in the milk of cows lactating for human consumption. They test the milk for those chemicals at the dairy. If any trace amount is found, the whole tanker is dumped as contaminated.
the fda has found no significant difference in milk from cows treated with rBST
source: it came to me in a dream/random food package i read
I don’t know where you live but I have never ever heard about giving estrogen to cows to force lactation. Just as a reminder, cows produce milk after they got a calf.
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
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Cow milk is full of estrogen and growth hormone.
As far as i know hormone concentration in milk is strictly regulated
afaik, it’s not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it’s often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has “estrogens” in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That’s why there’s no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
by who? facebook?
You know what I’ve been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
I think I remember a 4chan post with the supplemental thing, might originate from there instead idk
I expect the soyboy stuff originated on 4chan. But I would believe the “evidence” for other people commenting about it is also on Facebook.
I mean on Facebook it kinda makes sense that the crazy rises to the top. The normal people limit their posts to friends only. You can spot the crazies. They have all posts set to world visible.
but you see, the whole of Asia is made up of just women so that proves it! /s
I dunno, just mentioning what I’ve heard before, hence the ‘afaik’
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
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Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
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Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
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Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
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Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
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In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
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Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn’t contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn’t produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking
excessivecows milkleeches calcium out of our bones andexposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
Cow milk does not leech calcium from your bones.
Yep, my bad, I’ve corrected it.
Amazing, prior to today I didn’t know people could have this much information on soy and still end up objectively incorrect about its position relative to oat milk.
Go fuck yourself buddy. You and your non-oat-centrered world view need to check your privilege.
Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
Nah brah, coconut milk is the choice of kings.
Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?
It’s phytoestrogen, dummy Anon.
Fragile bros terrified of phytoestrogen in soy will be chugging dairy milk without a single concern.
All my dairy milk comes from bulls.
Is that why my milk has been so salty recently?
If you let your boss bully you into explaining what a soyboy is, you are in fact a soyboy
he brought it upon himself when he called a coworker soyboy first
What kind of fuckin idiot thinks that soybeans have synthetic female hormones of a caliber that would feminize you or whatever.
There’s so many of them. And they’re so goddamn dumb.
Yeah. Soy sauce is awesome and I don’t see anyone complaining about them.
Same idiots who think vaccines contain microchips and DNA altering substances.
I know right. If it did, you can be sure trans women would know about it.
How the fuck does this get posted all the time without anyone ever picking up on the fact that this workplace dynamic is obviously made up and anon is literally a 4chan kid who just changed the actors in his story from '‘teacher’ and “classmate” to ‘boss’ and ‘coworker’ so he wouldn’t get banned on an 18+ imageboard.
FOUND THE SOYBOY
Not only that, but mammal milk is literally hormone soup. Including estrogen. And soy doesn’t actually contain the same type of estrogen. They contain isoflavones including plant estrogen (phytoestrogen). Similar but different chemical, with different bioavailability in mammals.
Also:
For example, many studies have found that Western-type dietary patterns characterized by high intakes of red meat, processed foods, sweets, dairy, and refined grains are consistently associated with higher estrogen levels ( 3 , 15 , 16 , 17 ).
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-to-lower-estrogen
Basically the diet of the carnivores that mock the soyboys. How’s that for projection?
Sorry my facts offend your feelings.
Soyboy.
The soy thing has to be one of the funniest delusions I’ve ever seen.
People convincing themselves that all liberals are vegans, all vegans eat a diet primarily of soy, and that soy has compounds similar to estrogen, so therefore all liberal men are feminized by their diets and are therefore weak (because being a woman is bad).
The number of weird things you have to believe out of insecurity to get to that conclusion are quite embarrassing. It’s quite a self-report.
You can also reverse the argument into mockery, accusing conservative women of being too masculine because they don’t eat enough soy, then bragging about how feminine soy-loving liberal women are.
Finding a reason to completely disregard not just the ideas but even the humanity of huge swaths of other people is conservatism 101. Just give in to your most base tribal tendencies, and “know” that all those good-sounding ideas are in fact wrong and evil because they’re coming from the wrong/lesser people.
When you can’t argue against ideas, argue against the people saying them. See if ad-hominem attacks will work on people. (narrator: they did)
Omg do they really believe that?
There are people who do.
my family believes it completely. and hiding my actual estrogen is probably reinforcing their belief
And anon’s boss actually did exactly the thing you’re supposed to do when this happens irl.
Make them explain it for the group, and then socially ridicule them.
Just bully that fucking nerd. Maybe a swirlie, depends on the workplace culture.
As sure as people really believe greentexts happened and aren’t just fun little stories.
On that day, anon found out he really is a soyboy soyjack. Did he learn anything else? Nobody cares, only that soyboy won’t manage to pull that on anyone at work.
Sounds like something a soyboy would say.
Nut milk comes from male cows.
I’d like to use this moment in spotlight to highlight one of the greatest things on Youtube, i.e. hbomberguy’s SOY BOYS: A MEASURED RESPONSE
yes I’m
boya nonbinary entity and I was raised on tofu so actualmente la verdad es que no soy boyHad to read it a couple of times but great joke lol.
Reminded me if this
Always thought soyboy is a way to condecendingly refer to a JavaScript developer. Because you know, beans.
Hard to stay on top of all the internet lingo.
