• SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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    28 days ago

    Electric buses have a battery from a probably reputable supplier, with a decent BMS.

    Escooters often come from AliExpress.

    There is a difference.

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      27 days ago

      Also it’s not even a choice. Busses are not mass produced vehicles they’re regulated individually made commercial vehicles, and when the bus manufacturers say ‘were not building manual transmissions as of X date’, that’s it. It’s not happening anymore. Same with ABS, and now electric, unless you want to start manufacturing busses yourself, it’s not gonna be a choice by then.

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        24 days ago

        It’s not just that; it’s that a regulator signed off on the bus, the city has liability insurance on the bus, and the bus manufacturer will themselves be accredited and insured.

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          27 days ago

          How is it better for those batteries to malfunction in the passenger compartment instead of the storage compartment of the plane? I don’t understand that.

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            24 days ago

            Cabin crew on aircraft have fireproof bags and rather effective fire extinguishers. Dealing with a battery in the cargo hold isn’t possible.

            If you want to carry a battery on an aircraft it generally has to be less than 100 (sometimes 160) watt-hours, whereas e-bike and other batteries are often 10x that.

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        24 days ago

        Aircraft typically have a limit of 100 or 160 watt-hours and require that the battery be separate or the whole device be small (think laptop sized) so that you can dump it in a fireproof bag.

        An e-bike has a ~1kWh battery that is probably strapped or zip-tied in place and there’s probably no serious firefighting equipment.

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      27 days ago

      It’s insane to ban e-bikes though since most of those come from reputable sources who are internationally recognized bike manufacturers. The people who made my electric bike also make professional bicycles for Olympians. Pretty sure the battery is reliable and isn’t going to explode.

      My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask) and nothing happened. Literally it didn’t even register anything had happened it just carried it on.

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      27 days ago

      There is a clip circulating recently of a guy in China carrying his e-bike battery into the elevator. Than that thing explodes and the guy dies in a sea of flames. Yeah carrying a cheap high capacity li-ion pack into a enclosed space is not a good idea.

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        Quality control exists to ensure li-ion batteries don’t spontaneously combust, or at least not as often. Same reason why old timey film reels were kept under very carefully controlled environments, those things can also spontaneously combust. Any place that allows QC to be skirted will result in accidents and deaths like that elevator guy.

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    27 days ago

    My city bans bikes from buses because of the space they take up. Scooters and folding bikes are ok only if they’re folded up small enough not to be obstructive.

    The really shitty thing is that bikes are allowed on trains. But if the trains are unavailable and get replaced by a rail replacement bus…because it’s a bus, you can’t take your bike.

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      A few years ago the same thing happened to me. There was someone who wasn’t doing to good, on top of the station building on the next stop along throwing tiles and other things off. The operator got some replacement busses, that I couldn’t get as I had my bike. So I just sat there with someone else who could get on as they had their dog. For about 4-5 hours. Sucked allot as I was tired, the dog was cute though.

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    27 days ago

    How about this: allow devices with removable batteries on board, and have a bucket outside the bus to put the batteries.

    Boom, problem quarantined.

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    27 days ago

    I cannot have my own nuclear reactor, but the state can build nuclear power plants, wheres the fairness, wheres the freedom

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      27 days ago

      Yeah and it is high quality and regularly inspected but if you bring random aliexpress chinesium scooter who knows what kinda shortcuts were used to get it under 300 dollars

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    28 days ago

    Hey just wanted to let you know, I’ve read every single post in this community and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future every night before bed when I use lemmy to claw some precious time back from the eternal grind.

    Thanks for posting.

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    27 days ago

    i dont think that an electric fleet is feasable by 2030. for one simple reason: wintertime. the way to go for commercial vehicles is for the time being dieselelectric. that means diesel generator, battery, and electric drive.