• barsquid@lemmy.world
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    Repubs should run a better candidate if they don’t want people voting for a third party. Maybe someone who isn’t racist, geriatric, suffering from dementia, or an insurrectionist.

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        I agree, that also. Constantly going on about superficial crowd size nonsense and his 2020 election lies.

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        What does that even mean? We’re supposed to find new flaws to call out about Trump rather than recounting the most obvious serious ones?

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      “Just run someone we won’t call mean names” is an impossible demand, because Democrats will never stop calling conservatives these things.

      Not to say that Trump is the best Republicans have, he certainly is not. But the MSM would just say the same thing about the next guy. We’re already seeing this with how JD Vance is getting treated.

      Ted Cruz, one of my favorite presidential candidates, would never survive the current left wing media landscape. Neither would Vivek Ramaswamy or Rick Santorum, some of my other favorite presidential candidates.

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            Sure. Nobody was trying to prove that. However, whining about it in his support is hypocrisy.

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                Okay, but they’re qualitatively different. Saying Trump is geriatric, an attempted insurrectionist, sexist etc are sober descriptions of his behavior. The nicknames he comes up with like “Liddle Adam Schiff” are befitting of a preteen on a playground.

                Trump brought us to this level of discourse - the constant juvenile practice of using demeaning nicknames for anyone he doesn’t see as on his side. It has cheapened our politics, like he has in general. What you’re complaining about is labeling. It’s not “mean names”, which seems to trivialize the serious intent in pointing out someone is racist or senile.

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                Yet you highlight this:

                Democrats will never stop calling conservatives these things.

                Which are responses to his constant barrage of insults based on looks/race/whatever else he makes up. Is no one allowed to retort now? You can’t bemoan the “MSM” and “Democrats” when he is instigating this shit.

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                  Retorting to some extent is understandable, but when insults are all you have left, it betrays a weakness of your political position.

                  You will hear Trump criticize left wing policies day in and day out, but rarely will Democrats criticize Trump’s policies.

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        They’re not just names, unless you are deliberately ignoring reality.

        He’s not even a conservative. He just wants to shovel as much money as he can into his own pockets. He’s stealing classified documents. He’s completely unfit.

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          They’re not just names

          They mostly are, they are mostly just mean names propped up by lies/conspiracy theories. The tactics used by the MSM against Trump and a bully or abusive parent are almost identical.

          He’s not even a conservative. He just wants to shovel as much money as he can into his own pockets. He’s stealing classified documents. He’s completely unfit.

          The one thing we agree on is that Trump is not a conservative, so I’ll take that common ground with you. He is comically farther to the left than almost anybody in the MAGA camp.

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        So you’re just a terrible person? Got it.

        And no, this doesn’t prove your point. You could have mentioned old school McCain and I wouldn’t be thinking you’re a terrible person, but the current Republican climate only lets the loudest, most hateful people rise their ranks. There are some stinkers in the Democrat’s ranks, but I can’t think of a single Republican of note that isn’t terrible.

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          It’s amazing that anyone in the world can look at gigantic losers and pricks like Jim Jordan and think “oh yeah! Definitely voting for that guy”

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            Like saying he wasn’t a war hero since he got captured? Which is still better than dying since only “losers” and “suckers” get killed in war.

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              What wretched asshole would say such a thing? Unimaginable.

              Still, it could be worse than the media saying it. Like it would take some of the lowest scum on the planet for someone in the context of running for or acting as president to say such a thing.

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              Seriously, to paraphrase, “he’s just a hero because he got captured. Well I like the ones who weren’t captured”. And this from a giant asshole who never served after claiming to have “bone spurs” and called STDs in the 70s “his personal vietnam”. It’s unimaginable that basically anyone supports that insanely stupid windbag, but here we are.

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        Ted Cruz, one of my favorite presidential candidates, would never survive the current left wing media landscape.

        He couldn’t survive Trump insulting his wife and calling him a liar.

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          Which was tame compared to what he would have gone through had he gone the distance. He would have been hit with rape allegations if he won the nomination.

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      Yeah, I get that this hurts Trump but you can’t be running around altering ballots month after month after month, especially less than 100 days before the election.

      Too bad, RFK shoulda dropped out sooner or never dropped out at all.