• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    All these answers are so killjoy and boring.

    Yes, fantasizing about billionaires fixing everything by making good on their bullshit marketing pitches is very exciting to credulous people.

    Building habitats on other worlds doesn’t prevent us from caring for this one.

    If you believe that there’s some magic means to have zero emissions launches into space that are in any way self-sustained without further launches to keep throwing resources after spent resources from an increasingly polluted, depleted, and warming Earth, sure, you can huff that hopium deep and hard and ignore the worsening material reality all around you.

    Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home.

    You’ve bought deeply into billionaire bullshit and their bogus promises, especially as privatized space travel in the west becomes increasingly vanity tourism and marketing stunts. The accomplishments of such companies’ underpaid and overworked workers achieve are not for the common good, nor can they be because they are publicly subsidized private companies seeking to maximize profits and expand their own venture capital appeal, and nothing more.

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      You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

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          My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.

          If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.

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          “DAE le Musk Derangement Syndrome?”

          bazinga

          Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to “Musk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

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            Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to “Musk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

            lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it

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              Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.

              @frauddogg@hexbear.net is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.

              I can’t really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.

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                “As below, so above” might as well be the settler-colonizer’s ethos. “As I subjugate everything below me, I must reach for what’s above.” At what point is Polly satisfied?

                Never, apparently. Humanity will go extinct thanks to this malign tumor on our collective neck.

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                  Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as “culture war tropes” because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.

                  “Surely I can’t be racist I’m one of the good white people!”

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                    because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad

                    Kinda outs their whole “war is a football game to you” allegation as pure projection, doesn’t it? There is fundamentally zero difference between the ‘cUlTuRe WaR’, the electoral race, and the “professional” handegg games that will go on in two days for these settler liberals.

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                Ironically enough in their fantasy about reaching mars with privatized space planes that is an extremely likely scenario lol

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                    That submarine stunt was one of the funniest things that has ever happened.

                    Honestly if we wanted to do something neat that is almost exactly like settling an alien landscape we should invest in more deep sea research.

                    We don’t even know shit about Giant Squid which are like the coolest most alien thing on earth.

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          Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

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            I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies

            That says a lot about you, then. The guy’s a fascist but you don’t care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

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              Polly’s Tenet: “I can excuse anything from anyone if it means my treats arrive on time”. My parrot is literally more disciplined than these settler shitstains.

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            He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make. He’s just the nepobaby failspawn of blood emerald mining company money in South Africa; and as far as I’m concerned, that makes anything that comes out of his companies while he helms them fruit of the poison tree.

            We do not support, uplift, or patronize colonizers, slavers, resource-extracting thieves, or any combination of the three in this house.

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              He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make.

              Then stop obsessing on him maybe? The thread was supposed to be about space stations and stuff.

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                melon-musk and those other bazingas are all the same

                Colonizer fantasies and zero knowledge about how anything works

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        speech-r Drej words for "I think I’ll just sit back and watch these ignorant humans burn their own planet down while fantasizing about escaping it for now.’