They are not some disgustingly horrible unit like chargers fans say, and if Herbert was really as good as people say, he would be able to win SOMETHING with the team around him.

I mean damn, Russ has produced similarly both statistically and win wise with a much worse defence, arguably the worst receiving core in the league, no run game, and worse protection.

But according to this sub he’s a washed trash fraud qb who’s stealing paychecks yet Herbert is an MVP level god tier qb who just can’t overcome the terrible team around him.

Makes zero sense, just a bunch of confirmation bias and people who can’t admit they were wrong.