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    That’s true, he did more than just marketing and management. According to reports from his employees and C suite, he was also the one organizing the LSD parties and sometimes firing people HR had just signed a contract with.

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      hate to break it to you but:
      lsd is a wonderful drug and a big reason why they were so innovative… and a big reason why we have the internet at all….
      you may have been… misled into thinking an LSD party is like a crack party or something, but people who take lsd are actually interested in expanding their mind and it’s nothing at all like what the man says it’s like.
      for example, here’s one paper on it:
      ….
      i don’t think he was a very good person… pretty terrible with how he treated his daughter and employees… but i do think he was very smart, creative, and legitimately concerned with expanding human potential through computers… and successful in that.

      the structure of dna was discovered on lsd… much of the internet was created on lsd… one of ibm’s best programmers wrote a good paper on how lsd helped him hold an entire compiler in his head at once… much of silicon valley is currently microdosing lsd (and that’s in San Francisco, btw… capital of lsd).

      in short, him throwing lsd parties is one of the best things he did….

      (also, bill gates took lsd because of Jobs in order to be more creative, and then became one of the biggest philanthropists ever)

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          LSD definitely helped me understand calculus…
          that and Shpongle

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            I’ve had some delightful times on LSD.

            Also, it (and some other things) led me to meditation. And that’s real magic.

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              i’d say it’s the best all psychedelics… all of the others get me the visuals without the mental aspect… except maybe DMT but that’s a lot harder to handle

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                My fave is shrooms. Real friendly and powerful.

                I have never done DMT. Apparently it’s like shrooms, a tryptamine. But that isn’t saying much I guess.

                These days I meditate.

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                  DMT is nothing like shrooms… well, maybe like if you ate a pound of mushrooms, but it lasts for 15 minutes that feels like hours….

                  imagine hallucinating so hard you can’t tell a difference between opening and closing your eyes (i felt like i could see the matrix).

                  machine elves that disassemble and reassemble your body… little blue circles that swoop in and redraw the screen when you turn your head…

                  different for everyone and i’m not describing it well… but you definitely don’t want to try walking, for example.

                  i did bowl the best game of my life on mushrooms… but otherwise i prefer L

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        I made zero qualitative statements about LSD - I’m not sure where this mix of a rant with defending the drug came from. You can use it without freaking out about any mention of LSD online, I wasn’t “misled” about anything and made absolutely zero statements about LSD itself.

        But as a biologist, I’d like just to respond to your statement:

        the structure of dna was discovered on lsd

        No it wasn’t, I’m not sure were you got that from, please refrain from making statements about fields you do not have experience with.

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          https://maps.org/2004/08/08/nobel-prize-genius-crick-was-high-on-lsd-when-he-discovered-dna/

          Crick, who died ten days ago, aged 88, later told a fellow scientist that he often used small doses of LSD then an experimental drug used in psychotherapy to boost his powers of thought. He said it was LSD, not the Eagle’s warm beer, that helped him to unravel the structure of DNA, the discovery that won him the Nobel Prize.

          please refrain from being a condescending jerk just because you’re a biologist….

          and you certainly implied that throwing lsd parties wasn’t a good thing… but it is.

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            You’re doubling down on it? That’s cute. The structure was figured out after Rosalind Franklin, an absolute genius on X-ray diffraction, collected all the data that Crick and Watson used and purposefuly didn’t credit. It wasn’t LSD, it was their female colleague, who gave them the missing information required to infer the proper shape.

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              damn, you’re such a hostile tool… take the L, buddy…
              Rosalind Franklin may have been integral, but crick was still taking lsd when he inferred the proper shape, and i’d bet $20 Rosalind was taking it too….
              ….
              you’re definitely not a biologist though, fuckin liar… a real scientist would appreciate the nuance and not just try to argue bullshit side points to be right on a forum.

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          You seriously can’t see how the way you wrote that comment all but explicitly states that the LSD usage was a bad thing?

          If that wasn’t your intention you need to critically re-examine how you write.

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            can’t see how the way you wrote that comment all but explicitly states that the LSD usage was a bad thing?

            Don’t bring your preconceptions to my comment, or at the very least, don’t accuse me of subtext with your own delusions as a source.

            My comment was mocking Steve Jobs’ productivity, as in, what was he actually working in. LSD parties and interfering with HR is not working directly with the engineering and quality of the products. That’s the extent of the comment. Your perceptions on LSD are irrelevant to me.

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                Single you out? You’re the one replying as if you’re correct in your interpretation.

                But sure, if that hurt you: you and the single other person who misread the comment are both equally wrong. Better?

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                  You’re replying as if you’re correct too…? It’s called a disagreement? Christ you’re a hostile one aren’t you