• @bluebird3588B
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    18 months ago

    Of course it will only be for the EU. I’m sure users in other countries will find ways to get around this but I don’t see them willingly to open things up where they are forced to. This isn’t coming from the kindness of their hearts, keep in mind.

    I’m sure Apple being Apple, is going to half bake it just enough to comply while making it a pain in the ass for users.

  • @rwbrwbB
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    18 months ago

    If more people switch from Android to iOS by buying an 1300€ device, how many missed 30% cuts of 1€ Apps are compensated?

    I say, Apple wins in the end.

    • @GhostttproB
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      18 months ago

      NGL depending on how this goes I’m switching immediately from android.

  • @upanddowndaysB
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    18 months ago

    So fun politics question. Will this work for UK users or do I have another reason to hate my family?

    • @GodzillaX_B
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      18 months ago

      No, after Brexit you no longer share our sweet sweet laws. Just come back then you can enjoy once again.

      • @xmarwinxB
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        18 months ago

        Lol like anyone would want EU laws. Countries join the EU for money, not the regulations.

        • @GodzillaX_B
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          18 months ago

          Absolutely false. You a boomer? I’ve literally only heard weird euro rednecks and boomers say that shit. All my homies love the EU. In fact, 2 or 3/10 want federalization and basically everyone I know wants a stronger EU.

      • @CallHimFisterRobotoB
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        18 months ago

        We’ve got to deal with a bunch of fashy toffs stealing all our money first.

        But once they’re voted out we’ll be right there… Wait, the opposition said what? Oh…

        Guess we’re not coming back any time soon.

        Miss you homie.

      • @Kimantha_AllerdingsB
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        18 months ago

        I doubt most of the EU wants us back, and I can’t say I blame you. And if we were to see about coming back I very much doubt we’d get the same sweetheart deal that we originally had.

        And remember how riled up some people got over the colour of our passports? Now imagine that over having to adopt the Euro.

        Short answer: I don’t think it’s something we’ll even be able to talk seriously about for a good couple of decades. I just hope that we slowly re-join by stealth behind the scenes by doing things like re-joining bits and pieces so that the bigots and the exceptionalists don’t even notice.

  • @3inchesOfMayhemB
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    18 months ago

    Im selling S23 U if this comes to iPhones. Also im gona get that Pirate Flag.

  • @donfranklinB
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    18 months ago

    Question to everyone: Are there any particular apps/programs, you would want to sideload?

    • @CactusBoyScoutB
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      18 months ago

      There are some third party apps on Android that allow you to upload custom firmware to devices like electric scooters in order to change default settings. Those simply don’t exist on iOS, I assume because they aren’t allowed. I would definitely like to try that.

    • @sbdw0cB
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      18 months ago

      Non-WebKit browser, a torrent client, an actual shell

    • @Busch_League2B
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      18 months ago

      Lol, the legitimate answer for the majority of people is going to pirating any apps and content they don’t want to pay for.

      • @HistoricalInstanceB
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        18 months ago

        Probably, but those people wouldn’t have paid in the first place. Also pirating iOS apps isn’t as trivial as some might think.

    • @TizonaBluB
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      18 months ago

      Reddit app? App devs will be taken down if they let users use their own api token, but with sideloading devs can do just that and not worry about Reddit getting them taken down.

      • @PepparkakanB
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        18 months ago

        Devs would still (supposedly) be breaking the TOS, so they could get in legal trouble regardless.

      • @PepparkakanB
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        18 months ago

        Ooooh that’s gonna be super useful for pentesting.

        Also, if the required APIs are available for USB host mode shenanigans, I’ve always wanted an app that can emulate a USB stick given an ISO. I’d start the app, select the ISO, and connect to a PC and boot from the ISO. The app could also keep the ISOs of specific operating systems up to date, and also allow me to add custom ISOs and even regular writable filesystem images.

        Not to mention BadUSB scripts.

        If an iPhone could do that, that would be AMAZING!

    • @PepparkakanB
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      18 months ago
      • Actual alternative browsers is the big one for me, I want real WebExtension-support
      • Cloud gaming
      • Programming language interpreters
      • I have a friend that says they want porn apps, so for my friend, that
      • Anything requiring NFC card emulation besides the few blessed use cases Apple graciously allow
      • Proper photo backups (apps that aren’t Photos.app can’t automatically backup, you have to manually launch them)
      • Emulators
      • Open source software, because the vast majority of projects don’t have any actual income stream to pay for developer accounts
      • Anything that Apple deems is already “OS functionality”, see the MDM app crackdown a while back
      • etc.
      • @kenman345B
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        18 months ago

        This may open up a lot of inhouse development in places. Before, you had to have these limited developer licenses and bless devices to be able to install beta apps and a lot of places did this for internal only apps. That’s revenue to Apple just on the developer license and doing nothing else besides a webpage being maintained to hold all these profiles and stuff. And you were limited to the amount of devices you could use the beta software on.

        But, now, at least in the UK, you could see that cumbersome step removed and that means it may be worthwhile. Suddenly using an iPad for an internal only tool on a large scale is a possibility.

      • @rnarkusB
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        18 months ago

        Who would want a porn app that has more permissions to track everything you do?

        This is this weirdest one for me

        • @PepparkakanB
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          18 months ago

          Apps have worse ability to track you than a browser, not better.

          • no possibility of using third party cookies
          • no possibility to fingerprint you using what modifications your extensions do to the DOM

          The only extra information they get about you is a consistent but unique (as in not possible to correlate) identifier, meaning they know its the same device accessing the app that it was the other day as well. But they often know this from IP on the web anyway, and since it can’t be correlated, it doesn’t tell them much.

    • @xChrisMasB
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      18 months ago

      There are already apps you can side load with services like signulous. I mainly use a modified YouTube app that supports background play, Adblock and Sponsorblock. Works very well

      There are also 3rd party apps for other social media platforms.

    • @xithus1B
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      18 months ago

      I don’t know if it exists… but an app I can use to watch Netflix or YouTube on my CarPlay screen when the cars not driving.

  • @pjazzyB
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    18 months ago

    I really hope they think the UK is in the EU and give us the same thing. Something tells me it won’t since we were conned into leaving the EU

    • @BountyBobB
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      18 months ago

      Conned? You were only conned if you actually voted leave thinking you were voting for something else. I wasn’t conned, but unfortunately it didn’t matter.

      • @pjazzyB
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        18 months ago

        I was talking about the vote for Brexit, its too late to go back now though unfortunately, well not so soon anyway

  • @Chair_ToasterB
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    18 months ago

    And a huge warning every time you open an app where you to agree to a security threat message.

  • @spadePerfectB
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    18 months ago

    What does this mean? Not native English speaker and a lot of the hypothetical stuff just confused me lol.

    Could this mean apps from earlier iOS versions like old games that aren’t available anymore? Emulators + ROMs?

      • @PaulxDonatB
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        18 months ago

        I’m not hating on the extra features, I’m just sad that it WILL affect security on my perfectly closed system which I like the way it is

        • @AvgGuy100B
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          18 months ago

          Thank you! Glad to see someone agreeing for once, on this

  • @drivemyorangeB
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    18 months ago

    this would be huge in 2015. nobody cares about shops anymore, people just wanna install app and have it done. devs are out of their mind if they think they will gain on taking their app out of appstore and putting it on some alternative.

  • @CigarLoverB
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    18 months ago

    For iPhone users that want side loading… why not get android?

    • @Rhed0xB
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      18 months ago

      Apple builds faster CPUs and the OS does some things better such as animations.