Hi all, I’ve been venturing for months in this amazing self-hosted hobby and for the last couple of days I’m reading and trying to understand kubernetes a bit more, I’ve followed this article :

https://theselfhostingblog.com/posts/setting-up-a-kubernetes-cluster-using-raspberry-pis-k3s-and-portainer/

that helps you set up the lightweight Kubernetes version (K3s) and use Portainer as your management dashboard, and it works flawlessly, as you guys can see I’m just using two nodes at the moment.

And I’m using “helm” to install packages and the site ArtifactHUB to get ready to use repository to add into portainer Helm section (still in beta) but works flawlessly, I’ve installed some packages and the apps works just as I expected, but there’s seem to be a shortage of ready to use repository as it’s the case with docker alone, like with Plex the only way I got plex running in K3s is with KubeSail with offers an unofficial apps section that includes plex and tons of other well known apps, but strangely enough there are labeled unofficial but still works perfect when installed, but portainer would label all apps installed from KubeSail as external.

Now I think I get the use of kubernetes, it’s to have several nodes to use as recourses for your apps and also like a load balance if one node fails your services/apps can keep on running? (like raid for harddisks?)

All tough it was fun learning atleast the basic of Kubernetes with my two nodes, is it really necessary to go full blown out with only kubernetes? Or is Docker just fine for the majority of us homelad self hosted folks?

And is what I’m learning here the same in enterprise environments? Atleast the basics?

  • Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 months ago

    Kubernetes adds a lot of complexity. In return, it allows various teams in your company to work mostly independently, so that your software stack can mirror your org chart better. It trades latency for scalability (adds network calls to things that could have been local function calls). If your “home lab” isn’t serving millions of users, you don’t need Kubernetes to run it.

    That said, you might be using your home lab partly as practice for a job at a large company where the tradeoffs of Kubernetes make sense (or at least someone thought they made sense and started using it, which is more common). That means using it at home can provide valuable self training, since you can screw around and not take down the production cluster for anyone other than yourself.

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    11 months ago

    K8s helps me a lot to understand what I don’t know but nothing more than that. You need tons of studying to know what is going on beyond the scope of k8s.

    Not only k8s is solid overkill for the homelab but also most of self hosted services are not designed to be deployed in k8s pods. So it won’t just work.

    In case you want to learn something through deploying k8s, it doesn’t help you much either. Learning networking is much better option instead.

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    11 months ago

    Thanks all, for all the great feedback i got. I will definitely be investing more time to keep on learning Kubernetes, the more I read some of your comments the more ideas I’m having on my own use case in my home lab.

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    11 months ago

    I plan to use podman at home since I just have one node and I don’t care about HA as much (what will I even do HA with? VMs?).

    If you have multiple nodes for an HA setup, sure, go right ahead. It will be a massive learning curve though. But so are most things in life. I think everyone can learn a lot by running kubernetes (godly complex networking in my opinion).

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    11 months ago

    105 up votes… I honestly did not think that my question would have spark a ton of replies like this, I truly appreciate you guys!