Thank you for that information, just edited post but I just picked up my new to me S8 45mm. I read that the difference was minimal between the S7 and S8 so I was mainly looking at that S7 I mentioned in the post, but the guy was being passive aggressive over me not being able to meet him today during a time that worked for him but didn’t work for me. Ended up finding this S8 and was listed higher but offered $150 ($25 less than what the S7 was going to be) and she accepted. The watch is super clean no scratches at all which shocked me and works amazingly. Definitely happy with my purchase and glad I spent $150 for basically brand new (minus battery wear but whatever on that) compared to $450ish for the same size S9