Mishaal Rahman (@MishaalRahman@androiddev.social)
androiddev.social
Attached: 1 image Android 14 seems to have quietly eliminated a trick some apps were using to keep themselves alive when the OS tried to kill them. As spotted by Greenify developer Oasis Feng, Android now freezes a package's cgroup before killing it. Control groups (cgroups) is a Linux kernel feature that organizes processes into groups so their resource usage can be monitored/controlled. (1/6)
  • Tier 1 Build-A-Bear 🧸@lemmy.worldEnglish
    552·
    1 year ago

    I seriously don’t get why this can no longer be controlled by the user. I like my weather and music to be readily available, everything else can be killed

    • limerod@reddthat.comOPMEnglish
      36·
      1 year ago

      Android already has a setting for that. Disable battery optimization for apps you want to run in the background. Samsung goes much further with their sleeping, deep sleeping, and never sleeping lists.

          • limerod@reddthat.comOPMEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            This has not been true for me since oneui 4 and currently oneui 5. Apps can continue running however long within reason(doze). The ones that need to be running 24/7 like accubattery, tasker work fine when you set battery optimization to unrestricted. Others like adguard power through without issue. Only apps that take too many resources or frequent crashes that slow down your device get automatically closed — shown in device care. The only times my apps restart is when running heavy games and apps that take gigs in memory.

    • PrefersAwkward@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      1 year ago

      I think two great ways to manage this are

      1: using permissions the user can see and grant/deny “Allow persistent background usage” or something like that with a tooltip or something that warms the user about resource usage. IIRC, this is already a thing in Android 14.

      2: providing visibility into background app usage and history. They do this to some degree, but it’s not as good as it could be. Especially when I want to know what is draining my battery when my phone is in my pocket.

      • dan1101@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        It would be good to protect against malware. Bad for apps you legitimately want to run in the background. As usual it seems like a tradeoff between giving the user a choice while not overwhelming uninformed users.

  • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    This really was a trick and was mostly exploited.

    An app that actually needs being in the background would just show a persistant notification.