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      Never intended by whom? There’s no immortal, unseen planner behind the 400+ years of capitalism’s historical unfolding.

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      people don’t seem to understand that the profit motive has never been the driving force of capitalism.

      capitalism is at it’s most base level is just private property rights and it still works exceptionally well.

      the lie that was sold to the public may be dying but capitalism isn’t going anywhere.

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        ownership of property gives you power over it. if an individual owns a factory, they can influence how that factory operates. little by little, that control allows the individual to benefit themselves. and they can use that benefit to accumulate more property and therefore more power.

        if you have private property rights, then a dictatorship is eventually inevitable. It’s simple cause and effect.

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        people don’t seem to understand that the profit motive has never been the driving force of capitalism.

        Is this a joke?

        The M-C-M’ profit motive is self-evidently the driving force. Just ask literally any member of the capitalist class.

        capitalism is at it’s most base level is just private property rights and it still works exceptionally well.

        Yes, and not just any kind of property, but specifically the means of production. And it does work well, but not for everyone, specifically for the bourgeoisie, who are the ones who own said private property. It doesn’t work well for the proletariat, and it works less and less well for them as private ownership continues to consolidate to a smaller and smaller circle of wealthier & more powerful billionaire oligarchs.

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          Why would a system that cares about profit hire middle managers?

          it’s the power struggle. always has been. the implication is always that the system is working for those in power or it would be changed.

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            Because capitalists usually don’t know how to do a single fucking thing, and rely on other workers to direct production and, mostly, to act as disciplinarians who avert unionization and promote an environment of exploitation. You’ve never seen anyone half as worried about the owner’s money as the guy with the small office, slightly higher pay, and a plaque that says you’re under him.

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            Have you never worked for a corporation? Yes some middle management is useless but there is always the one guy that’s actually doing beneficial things. Besides you need a layer of slaves under your upper management so that you can do illegal things without repercussions and just fire some middle management. That’s all capitalism is, 100% profit seeking

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            Why would a system that cares about profit hire middle managers?

            Obviously because the company owners believe that hiring those middle managers will increase profits. This is like Business 101-level stuff.