I don’t know why you would think that because I definitely do not. They have even less of an excuse now that grammar and spelling checking are freely available. If the comment was intelligible I would have had some sympathy, I have no sympathy for slop.
I hate this modern world where people expect medals for trying.
I understand perfectly well, I am from Europe, my country has 2 recognised languages.
I showed my 8 year old both of your comments, he had a good laugh when I told him an adult wrote them.
3, 2 fluent
I’m sure the irony of responding to a bullshit comment with a bullshit comment of your own is lost on you. Your comment is a great example of the mentality of those who are pro censorship.
I would suggest learning basic grammar before responding to anyone else.
What the moron is adding to the discussion?
My 8 year old can write at a more intelligible sentence than this. I do not trust the opinions of those with an inferior intellect to him.
I was banned and had comments removed for suggesting that China was far from a socialist country and have just figured out a different approach to exploiting workers surplus labor.
Seems like this is a common theme for power tripping mods as well as any other system of power. Proves the main point I was trying to make about vertical power structures being the problem. Give most people any degree of power and it goes to their heads. Our monkey brains can’t handle power.
.ml is the only place I have seen so far on Lemmy that regularly removes comments and bans users. ml crowd can’t deal with opinions that differ from theirs so just ban and censor them.
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Life expectancy increased in the imperialist west off the backs of the global south, life expectancy increased in socialist countries due to pro-social policies and industrial development.
Now we are back to confusing correlation with causation. Life expectancy increased dramatically across the 20th century as a result of improved sanitation, medical breakthroughs like antibiotics and vaccines and better obstetric care for childbirth. You are also hilariously forgetting that the USSR was an empire with the European states being kept in line often brutally by their Russian overlords. Did Russian imperialism increase Russian life expectancy then? You should at least be intellectually consistent.
As for prostitution, it skyrocketed because poverty skyrocketed
And this was the fault of the imperial west how? The USSR collapsed due to its own bad governance.
The imperialist west is now collapsing under its own weight
Wake me up when this happens babe.
socialist countries like China are rapidly rising
Most economists would describe today’s China as hybrid state capitalism. China’s communist days are long behind them, I noticed how even you referred to them as “socialist” which would be a stretch considering the oppressive conditions most live under.
You have not explained how Marx “does not add up.”
There are plenty of information online debunking Marx’s theories, I do not have time to do what you can search yourself. I also know that you will be like the proverbial horse brought to water. You mentioned earlier that capitalism in the imperial west is now collapsing under its own weight, as Marx predicted. Marx predicted that capitalism contained the seeds of its own destruction, leading to the inevitable collapse of the system, falling rates of profit, and widespread immiseration of the working class. In reality, capitalist economies proved adaptable, driving technological innovation, creating modern welfare systems to regulate markets, and lifting billions out of poverty globally over the last century.
Or more importantly, why has the proletariat not risen up yet? I mean they’ve had almost 2 centuries at this point!
As for Russia being an “empire,” it is not.
Do you know nothing of Russian history? Read a book dude! How did the Russian state expand over the centuries, magic?
A country cannot be imperialist if it isn’t imperializing.
You say this with a straight face when they are invading Ukraine in an imperialist land grab. This is just after Russia stole a slice of Georgia. I don’t think you understand the meaning of words buddy.
but the two are strong allies. This is certainly unthinkable for a westerner, but it turns out having shared interests and not being dominated by finance capital means countries can genuinely ally.
Back to you not understanding words again. Russia and China are not allies, they pay lip service to their “friendship” and strategic partnership. Alliances in the traditional sense are military and Russia and China are most definitely not this. This war going on for as long as it has is in Xi’s interest, he wants a weak junior partner Russia who he can get cheap gas from and water. It is never an equal partnership when one side absolutely depends on the other. Xi has Putin right where he wants him.
No, my comment is not confusing correlation with causation. You never explained this point, you just stated it as though it counters all of the hard evidence I brought supporting how well socialism works and how poorly capitalism has done in its place.
I didn’t explain my point because I do not have the time to go through every single bullshit point you made, that would just be a waste of time. I’ll pick one but this point could be made of every example you gave. You used the increase in life expectancy in the USSR as one reason why communism is superior to capitalism.
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You fail to mention that life expectancy in the capitalist west increased to even greater figures or explain why USSR life expectancy tailed off in the 50’s only to rise after communism.
Prostitution, which is fine by me, oldest profession in the world and all that, where did all of the demand come from following the collapse of the USSR? Did capitalism corrupt the people’s minds or was the soviet government lying?
That’s like suggesting that if a scientist makes a mistake in calculating gravity, that the law of gravity is wrong
No it’s not and you have revealed the fatal flaw all of your crowd exhibits. You view economics as a hard science like physics, where there are universal immutable constants. Economics is a soft science where things are constantly changing depending on multiple factors. Marx did not “discover” the universal secrets of economics in the way Newton or Einstein did. Where in that article you send does Marx debunk George? It just reads like intellectual snobbery by a myopic man unable to see beyond his own work and defending his own views. You sit in an echo chamber of confirmation bias.
Marx’s ideas don’t work or add up, they are from another time, same as George for that matter. Their ideas do not work for modern globalised economies. If they did surely we would have seen the proletariat rise up and seize the mean of production. I am sure this is coming any day now buddy.
However, nationalist Russia still plays an internationally progressive role in undermining imperialism, which is positive.
WTF? Hilarious statement! RUSSIA IS AN EMPIRE! All of the empires try and undermine each other as they always have. You are displaying the third worldism tankies have adopted since the proletariat never rose up, now relying on rebel groups in developing countries to carry on the revolution.
This was already true a decade ago, and yet no Chinese invasion of Russia seems plausible.
No invasion necessary here, Putin is so deep in Xi’s pocket at this stage he is playing with his balls! Russia is so overdependent on China and China alone that they are now just a vassal state of China. No matter the outcome of the war this will be true. China will reclaim their lost territories without blood and secure the water their large population requires.
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Damn Ill be surprised if you even opened capital to begin with
I assume you are referring to Das Kapital? It is essential college reading for any third level student. Marx should be everybody’s starting point in politics, when it is also your end point, as it is with most of your crowd, you run into serious problems.
Im sure you read most of marxist/communist literature
I’m a much bigger fan of Henry George, Progress and Poverty is a much better book in both writing and content.
also notice how you had to completely derail his point to USSR for a strawman
It was not a straw man, our entire conversation is about Russia and the article we are commenting on is also about Russia, in the context of our conversation how is it not relevant? Should I have referred to some other random successful communist state that actually followed the teaching of Marx perfectly? The point was what communists want and what happens in reality are two very different things. This clearly went over your head, don’t worry about it though buddy, I am used to it from your crowd.
Communists want the working classes to control and direct society
This never happened in the USSR though did it? The USSR was a dictatorship that brutalised the working classes. They are not some beacon of righteousness that we need to be referring back to, Soviet style “communism” is not what anyone seeking a more just world should be aspiring to.
There are other ways of delivering more horizontal power structures that would make society a better place for all. We do not need to be looking to a guy who lived 200 years ago for solutions today, anyone who critically looks at Marx’s ideas who isn’t a teenage boy in a Che Guevara t shirt knows his math and ideas do not stand up to scrutiny. Just as ridiculous as those who look to Adam Smith for guidance today. At least Marx fucked though, I never trust a man who doesn’t.
I also don’t get what you mean by “Russia’s loss,” it’s a war of attrition
I don’t know how you can’t see how this statement you made is an embarrassing loss for Russia. How the mighty have fallen.
they are facing immense population collapse and crisis and an unstable government. Russia doesn’t have the same problems.
This tells me you have never seen Russia’s population pyramid or understand the trajectory of Russia’s population. Demographics is destiny, worrying you can’t see that but then lying to themselves is a Russian national sport at this stage. At least you are the best in the world at something!
In terms of government stability, power in Ukraine has changed power peacefully several times now since Maidan. I have no concerns that they can do it again. Russia on the other hand has an aging dictator who has been at the helm for almost 30 years with no successor or succession plan in place. Putin currently exerts near total control over Russia, the power struggle following his exit, which will be in the next decade, will be enormous. Bend over and prepare for Balkanisation my submissive friend.
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Good luck Sergei, another meeting with the Americans will surely do something after the last few useless meetings.
The most telling statements from Sergei here are his repeated denials that Ukraine is currently winning.
You will not end this war by speaking to the Americans who can’t even keep Israel in check while trying to negotiate with Iran. The USA clearly does not “have the cards” in this situation either so it is a little bit silly of Sergei to be so reliant on the Yanks here.
Putin needs to man up and speak to Zelensky if he wants to end his war, is he afraid or something?
Some good information on Chinese state subsidies here. I also agree that European car makers have shot themselves in the foot by refusing to innovate and attempting to squeeze their customers.
It is not surprising that the EU and USA have moved to protect their car industries. China bet big on EVs, recognising their strategic oil weakness. The EU seemed oblivious to their own strategic weakness here while they pandered to the interests of big oil.
China deserves to win this one as they have played a great game while the rest of the world messed up.
Why was my comment removed from this?
I was arguing that limp appeasement like that offered by Radev here is what got us into this mess with Russia in the first place. Keep the boot on Putin’s neck until he squeals like the pig he is, strength is all he understands.
I’m afraid I am fresh out of empathy and understanding when it comes to the illiterate attempting to insult my intelligence.