Even Christian values allow for the taking of a life to save another, i.e. self defense. A 10 year old can arguably get an abortion and not violate Christianity. Most abortions aren’t 10 year olds, either, and a straw man argument helps no one.

If it’s murder, it’s a genocide. If it isn’t, it’s infringing women’s rights. Sadly this makes the problem unignorable, and idiots tend to be the loudest.

This is very well said. So many people make this out to be a men vs. women power struggle when it is really focused on whether a fetus is human or not. That’s why well-informed women can be pro-life, and well-informed men can be pro-choice.

You have no basis for your claim of false rape accusations being statistically insignificant. Only 2-5% of rape cases result in a conviction, which is the only provable statistic that is relevant, which suggests that 95%+ of rape accusations are false (obviously the legal system isn’t 100% just, my point is you have no evidence or basis for your claim).

“I care about the increase in human suffering”. Like I said in my first reply, this is the same argument used in the original post, which everyone in this thread is shitting on. Take a good long look at your morals because they seem to be very extreme and unstable.

You really invalidate your position when you state that you wouldn’t even care if more false accusations increase. You are making this a men vs. women issue which is it absolutely not. This tribalism is not only unproductive it’s destructive. I know plenty of informed women who are against abortion and plenty of informed men who favor it.

You have an awful lot of faith in humanity if you think any law won’t get weaponized for evil when possible. But I guess a man wrongfully going to jail for 10-20 years for rape isn’t evil in your eyes, or you have gaslight yourself into believing that men are never victims.

I mean after a year the child is no longer 10, so at this point we are scarring a new child every year.

Random question but I’m just wondering your position on this. Is the burden of proof on pro-choice or pro-life advocates when it comes to the humanity of a fetus? In other words, should abortion be legal until we can prove that a fetus is human or should it be illegal until we can prove it isn’t? Just genuinely curious.

Their point was that incentivising rape allegations as a means to permit an abortion will lead to a non-zero number of instances where false allegations will occur. This is correct. Men weren’t being victimized, and comparing this guy with a rapist is immature and downright disrespectful to victims of rape.

If you are ok with a few more instances of men being falsely accused of rape for the greater good of women, then your thinking is analogous to the person in the original post who was ok with 1 person being raped to stop the killing of thousands of unborn babies.

My brother in Christ no one is defending Trump here. You can criticize Kamala without supporting Trump.

Notice how it’s easier to assume the other side is ridiculous and stupid than it is to consider that their arguments could have some validity as well. Wayyy to many of my coworkers are die-hard Trump fans and can’t imagine how dumb people would have to be to vote blue.