Wow, things are developing fast, Chang’an and now Geely. Are they gonna develop EVs with Nio’s existing battery format, or is Nio gonna develop a new battery format that better suits its partners’ need.

Typical American, everything is about them. Its name comes from Chery’s Exeed brand, since this is a collaboration between Huawei and Chery, and it’s based on the Exeed ES.

The EV this is based on, Chery Exeed Es has a CLTC range of 905km, how come the Huawei version has a shorter range.

You are right, I was thinking about something else when I wrote this, tricky how mind works sometimes.

No, Tesla did not patent it or first use it. Semiconductor firms have been using the term GigaFab for over a decade.

Taliban is very interested, and would like to discuss some extra onboard equipment.

Actually BEV is not exempt from VAT, which is included in the MRSP. The tax exemption that BEV got is purchase tax (10%), which is not included in the list price, ICE vehicle got half exemption (i.e. ICE purchaser has to pay 5% purchase tax), to boost car sales.

The main reason for lower price is mainly due to lower manufacturing cost (economy of scale, robust supply chain), and other factors like fierce competition forces manufacturers to sell vehicles at price barely covers cost contribute as well.

150kW is good enough for ID.3, but too puny for this segment. For this segment, 200kW is basic. It will claim the title of “weakest large electric sedan”.

How does it have a CLTC range of only 642km with 84.8 kWh battery capacity. The European version has a WLTP range of 621km with 82kWh gross,77 usable battery capacity.

Any timeline on production? If it’s just lab result, I’m not impressed, as a lot of companies can achieve that in small quantity lab samples already.

Tesla on their dual-motor, has a synchronous motor for urban use and an asynchronous one for like highway."

I don’t know about Tesla specifics, but most EVs using both synchronous motor and asynchronous(induction) motor don’t work that way. It’s usually PM synchronous motor(PMSM) for the real axle used in most scenarios(urban and highway), and induction motor on the front axle, which is used only when you need extra power or 4WD. The reason is that PMSM is more efficient, so it is used most of the time.

130kW motor, why so puny? It’s an EV, make it like a proper one.

No, China actually do not own these patents, but the LFP patent was declared invalid in China a long time ago. The reason it was declared invalid is because the patent owners did not file the patent until much later in China (China is still a economic backwater around 2000) , and they packaged several patents into one very broad and expansive patent, which others challenged. As a result, companies can manufacture and sell LFP batteries in China without paying royalties to Quebec hydro, the patent owner, but they have to pay royalties to Quebec hydro if they sell it outside China, where the patents are valid.

But back to the question of why European OEMs do not offer LFP batteries yet, it’s because they act slow, a lot of them have actually announced plans to use LFP batteries.

This one seems very competitive, very sporty with great range and efficiency. Some claim it can charge at 300+kW, or even 400kW. If so, it is fucking amazingly good.

That‘s a misleading number, it’s most definitely just refundable deposit. The vehicle is too big and too expensive for most people.

Looks good. Strong performance with 800V architecture, should have very fast charging speed. Hope it’s not too expensive.

I don’t think Zeekr has a exclusive deal with Qilin battery, it’s just a name CATL give for their 3rd Gen CTP battery tech. Zeekr is just the launch customer, a lot of other EV manufacturers are starting to use it in their EV lineup.

Volvo may get away with sacrificing power for comfort, it won’t get away with lower range, as potential buyers do care about range.

So not only the 140kWh Qilin battery version is gone, the front motor is gone as well. Is it positioned as a lower trim version of Zeekr 009?

It probably won’t be cheaper than Zeekr009 either, so what is Volvo thinking?