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drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•[Thinking Basketball] Is this the best defense in the NBA?English1·2 years agoThinking Basketball tends to know their shit so I’m surprised they didn’t know why Isaac doesn’t get more playing time. It’s kind of known throughout the nba that he’s injury prone af. Walking glass sheet
drmuffin1080Bto Sacramento Kings@nba.space•Game Thread: Golden State Warriors (8-9) at Sacramento Kings (9-6) Nov 28 2023 7:00 PMEnglish1·2 years agoHoly shit
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Where do I officially note I was a fan before so I don't get accused of bandwagoning?English1·2 years agoPlease we need more fans it doesn’t matter if they’re bandwagoners
drmuffin1080Bto San Antonio Spurs@nba.space•Pop said the constant jeering of Kawhi is "kind of an indication of the world we live in today. It was hateful, really disrespectful & it was just mean-spirited."English1·2 years agoQuestion from a Magic fan: is there any love for Kawhi since he has a FMVP, or has that ship sailed? I thought he’d at least be respected for that, but nah this sub seems to be in a consensus “Fuck Kawhi.” Was there any hate after he won his Raptor’s chip?
drmuffin1080Bto NBA - Main@nba.space•GAME THREAD: Boston Celtics (12-3) @ Orlando Magic (10-5) - (November 24, 2023)English1·2 years agoMagic and Rockets gotta be the earliest surprises of this season. Hope they can keep it up
drmuffin1080Bto NBA - Main@nba.space•Are Franz and Mo Wagner the best sibling teammates of all time?English1·2 years agoGasol brothers man. Cmon
Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Shai, Haliburton, Durant, Steph, Giannis, Fox, Tatum, Sengun, Lebron, Sabonis, Anthony Edwards, Brunson, Adebayo. All of these players I’d put for MVP before Paolo. But not all of them are even seriously in the conversation, especially Sengun and Brunson. To me, it really just depends on what u mean by “in the conversation”. If you’re outside of the top ten, I’m not counting u. Paolo isn’t even in the top 15.
“The guys who have the most value are the ones who impact winning the most.” Yeah, that’s still not Paolo.
I will once again go to my statement of “no one on the 2014 spurs was an MVP level player.” Paolo does not impact winning the most. Every impact metric shows him to be good, but nowhere near the levels of Jokic or Embiid. Everyone on the Magic is contributing. We have arguably the best bench unit in the league. The bench BPM has been insane.
Sorry, but Paolo should not be anywhere near the MVP discussion. Everyone should know by now that it means the best regular season player that season. That’s why they gave it to Jokic in 2021 and 22 despite not having the best record. I think you’re giving Paolo way too much credit for our success. We aren’t even a lottery team without him. That’s how good our defense is. And he’s not even the third best defender on our team.
Also, the game he had that big time shot over Caruso was a travel. Sorry it just was there’s no other way around it. We can’t complain about refs and then be okay with that.
I look at MVP by counting stats, and advanced metrics which include on/off numbers. Paolo is averaging 19.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, and 4.5 apg with around 3.5 turnovers. Good numbers. His BPM is 1.0. No MVP in history would’ve had one that low. His +- isn’t even the highest on the team. Ingles is over +70 while Paolo is over +20. Even with their limited minutes, every single person on the bench other than Black have the highest +-
It’s obvious where our success is coming from: a collective effort.
He does not deserve to be in the conversation. Just like no one on the 2014 spurs deserved to be in the mvp conversation. Paolo is good, but to say he’s on an mvp level is just wrong. This team’s identity comes from its defense. Our offense is still hovering around 25th. He’s not better than Jokic, Embiid, Shai, Giannis, Haliburton, Doncic, Durant, Steph, or Tatum. He’s gettin there tho
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoWe may never lose again
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoIngles gives us spacing so I don’t mind him out there. But yes, we need more Isaac
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoWow the end of that quarter was the most deflating shit I’ve ever seen
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoLame tech. I hate the rim holding techs
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoDoesn’t excuse the horrible turnovers
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoFranz needed to be back in so much earlier
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoCole u selfish fuck just shoot the half court shot
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PMEnglish1·2 years agoThis is ugly basketball. UGLY
drmuffin1080Bto Orlando Magic@nba.space•Game Thread: Boston Celtics (12-3) at Orlando Magic (10-5) Nov 24 2023 2:30 PM1·2 years agoBad turnovers
Franz