Yeah mushrooms contain a good amount of umami (one of the ingredients of meat that makes it “tasty”). For me it took quite some time (maybe 2-4 years) until my gut adjusted to the taste of a (mostly) vegan diet. But then there’s just a lot more diversity and interesting taste otherwise. With a good amount of experimentation combining all kinds of different things to compose a unique taste. With meat it’s often just the main taste-defining/dominating ingredient (so kinda boring?). I avoid the highly processed “meat”-replacements though, maybe that helped a bit to get my taste away of meat.

And from the downvotes I conclude that this will remain a mostly secret judge. It’s sad, that you don’t see it yet, this will very likely be the future whether you like it or not (when we don’t fuck it up completely, but I’m somewhat hopeful).

The argument that meat is cheaper is also not really true anymore. There’s basically no reason to eat meat anymore. Matter of fact, I developed a distaste to meat when I mostly stopped with eating meat, after eating way too much before (tastes kind of rotten compared to plant-based), try it out, it’s easier than you think, and gets easier over time.

Eating meat although they’re fully aware, that we have to shift completely away of that (GHG emissions, land-use), and then blame the government that they need to regulate this more.

Yes more government regulations would be great, but it’s one of the few individual things that have effect, if everyone would think similar. And a vegan or mostly vegan diet is not really worse in taste and likely more healthy as well… Eating meat is not sustainable (nor morally justifieable), it should be a thing of the past…

Yes it’s absolutely depressing. Also just thinking about the idiocratic/authoritarian/right-wing movement that doesn’t want to do against or even wants to accelerate climate-change.

But apart from good things that are happening right now (as I just watched it https://youtu.be/vUA1kFSJnYQ)

Think about it, there are what > 8 billion people in a highly developed /technological advanced world, how realistic is it really that everyone of them will die for good? Evolution took all kinds of measures to avoid it. There will likely be humans (unfortunately likely those that mostly caused climate-change) that will survive. We can already create artifical climate, there’s vertical farming that can be isolated from the outside. Even if we’re approaching a hell like planet with > 10 C warming, it’s not that we don’t have very cold places that may be suitable for living then. Yes it will be a lot less people but I don’t believe in a total collapse. We have all kinds of redundancy with data storage etc. know-how won’t just be lost.

Also while all of this is happening rapidly on a geological timescale it’s still slow for humanity and it’s ability to adapt. We’re still talking about centuries, for the hellish kind of development. It’s getting uncomfortable the next decades, but likely so that humanity will finally grasp the fuck up, and takes effective counter-measures. Also the probability that we advance quick enough to sequester carbon so fast (and find safe geoengineering), to reverse at least some of the tipping points is still on the table.

I honestly hate this rhetoric (nothing personal). Thing is, it gets worse and worse, the less we do, it’s not binary, and while the planet will not be able to support close as many people as of now, humanity will survive. But it’s very dependent on the actions we do now, how many will…

Yeah I don’t know. Just see how the modern world is shaping society to the negative. Generation Instagram/TikTok all want to be influencers, there’s growing mental illnesses. Fertility rapidly declining (and it isn’t unfortunately all because of education). Capitalism is almost perfected abusing the dopamine system in an unhealthy way. I don’t want to be a doomer. I just don’t see where we are close to utopia. Which for me would be more sociali(sm) more community, less narcissism/egoism and more solarpunk. But right now we are on a different path. I’m happy to be proven wrong though…