I was just trying to refute your assertion that, “Trade ins and selling old phones doesn’t really reduce e-waste.” Obviously some used phones are going to be bought by people who need a replacement, and if a used phone wasn’t an option, they’d buy new.

I don’t know why you are soo hostile. Are you okay?

Your new scenario is still supply constrained. No one gets a new phone for 2 out of 3 years.

Those aren’t unpurchased new phones though. As you point out, they’re discontinued, discounted and sold.

I was only trying to refute that, “Trade ins and selling old phones doesn’t really reduce e-waste.” I’m the same as you, buying used phones, and if I didn’t have that option I would be buying new phones instead.

I completely agree with your comment. I was only responding to the claim, “Trade ins and selling old phones doesn’t really reduce e-waste.”

Why would you make your scenario supply constrained? Your argument is simply if we sold less phones, less would go to e-waste, and duh. That wasn’t debate, it was whether releasing new phones every year was wasteful vs new phones being released every 2-3 years.

Your scenario also assuming people buy used or they just don’t have a phone. People who buy a used phone generally do so instead of buying a new phone.

That’s empirically untrue. If people are selling their used phones and not keeping more than one phone (which definitely happens, but is unrelated to this point), then the exact same number of phones would be produced as if everyone bought new and only put them in e-waste when they were broken/obsolete.

If you’re upgrading your phone every year, that is a personal choice. Plus, most people who do that trade-in/sell their old phone which gets used by someone else.

I don’t really see any downsides to annual phone releases. For those people who want to upgrade every year, they can, for everyone else, you upgrade when you want to and you get a pretty new phone. I definitely agree the improvements for slab phones has slowed down a bunch, but there are still pretty big leaps in foldables, etc.

iPhone SE doesn’t come out every year, and Apple doesn’t have a foldable.

And it’s not like it contains any sensitive information. I’m sure all your emails are just friendly correspondence with your pen pal.

Because why not 🙂

Because security.

Great comparison, a dialect used by millions of people to a dead language. It really shows how much you care about the people who speak that dialect…

Ah, see I also think the US system is messed up, but for the opposite reason. The US is one of the few places in the world with elected judges, and most of the rest are political appointments. In the rest of the world, there are non-partisan process to select qualified judges. Political appointments for administrative positions are just bad and contributes to the polarization we see today. With elections, I don’t think the majority of voters are actually researching and assessing these down-ballot races, but just voting along party lines. This means, instead of a (TBF, potentially flawed) non-partisan process, you just have the parties selecting judges, giving political parties even more power.

I’m curious how you’re excited for these judicial reform. IMHO, elected judges are a horrible idea.

I’ve been using Linux Mint Cinnamon for years now, after distro-hopping for a decade. I think there’s 2 main reasons Mint has stuck:

1. Cinnamon - I think it looks pretty while not being overly heavy (though I think that all DEs are pretty efficient nowadays, I’ll take all the performance I can get out of this 14-year-old ThinkPad x201). It has good features while operating fairly stable. It’s also stable in that there’s few drastic changes.

2. Ubuntu, but slightly better - I like Ubuntu, and used it on-and-off for years (Warty through at least Precise), but Ubuntu’s made a lot of drastic changes over the years which messed with my workflow. Other changes I just disliked (ex Snaps), and I feel like they keep trying to force these changes on users. Whenever something’s hard or impossible on Mint, I feel it’s a technical challenge, not the distro actively preventing me from doing it. It’s nice to have a Ubuntu based distro because most instructions found online Just Work™.

If you want KDE, why not use a KDE-distro? Any time I’ve installed a different Desktop Environment, I’ve found it pretty janky.

That’s not modern games, that’s brand new hardware. It’s a good suggestion, but different than what you originally said.

I figured, I was looking for the model number so we could see specs, age, etc.

What model? I’m running Linux Mint on a ThinkPad x201 and love it!

What about Ubuntu derivatives for desktop? My go to recommendations are Pop! OS and Linux Mint (which I use).