As someone who was raped as a teen, I would still do anything in my power to prevent you from killing my rapist. Because if you kill them, you’re just worse than them, really.

Right. So you only want to murder child molesters. Thanks.

Not choosint violence = concern troll? Come on, I just disagree with you.

I don’t support violent solutions when I don’t deem them absolutely necessary — I don’t think that punching Nazis will inch the Nazis any closer on their path back to sanity. Using violence causes trauma. Traumatized people are at risk to create more violence which results in more traumatized people. What I am advocating for is breaking the cycle and choosing therapy and connection rather than war and violence. If a Nazi walks armed into your home, fuck them up no problem. But punching a Nazi while they are being interviewed on TV? Punching a Nazi for having a swastika tattoo? Fuck no, that’s the spot where you will create trauma just so you can feel like you’re the big guy here and could defend yourself from the “evil Nazi”. It’s incredibly black-and-white to use this as a blanket license for violence. You then inch closer to the ideals of Nazis, you become the monsters you want to fight.

The quote I have is a play on the Kissinger one. Netanyahu is a war criminal and it makes me what to punch him to death but I won’t because I can control my fucking emotions and can never predict the violent spiral coming in the future if I choose to kill a person.

Yeah exactly so I was asking who else you would include other than child molesters. Or is that where you draw the execution line?

So I cannot disagree with them without using violence that makes me no better than them? How sad this sounds.

No friend, the gray area is about execution. Do who else is on your death note?

Can’t do any crimes if everyone is dead. By your logic we should start poisoning the water.

Who else is on your list that we should strip of basic human rights? Rapists? How about killers? Thieves? Anyone in politics?

He is a cool guy but what the fuck. Senselesd traumatizing violence and nothing really changes.

And that will help how??

That’s how you make scientific conclusions… don’t like it? Take it up with the statisticians.

Are you sorry for the Roma that you generalize against, when they suffer the effects of such stereotyping?

I have a friend who hangs out with ANTIFA to punch Nazis. He does it for the symbolism, makes him feel like a hero when he is violent. No thanks.

It gets easier of course when they don’t focus on the racial aspect but instead pick some other factor: we need to steal their children because they are poor, these children deserve better!

It’s fine just go ahead and ban me because I won’t edit anything. I provided two articles about captives and their experience having been held hostage by Hamas, they list multiple instances. I have no time for bs like this.

Just because there are problems with the NYT does not mean this particular story is not credible. This woman is simply sharing her experinece. What evidence do you have to refute the claims of a rape victim? Should she not be taken as seriously as any other rape victim? Just because Israel can take advantage of such a story to justify genocide does not mean we can discredit the story without being intellectually dishonest.

Sexual assault: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/amit-soussana-israeli-hostage-hamas-sexual-assault-intl/index.html

Abuse: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hostages-held-hamas-describe-life-was-captivity-rcna126781

Do you hound everyone for citations or only in this case? Do you want proof that these people have had these testimonies or that these things actually happened?

Thanks for pointing that out. No denying this. Is this about Amit Soussanna? Would be curious to see a timeline for that. But also as a rape victim myself, it took me years to finally come out and tell my parents what had happened. It’s possible that she is lying, but also possible that she is saying he truth. It doesn’t say anything politically about Hamas or Palestinians… it’s just a thing that is likely to have happened.

The thing is, it would also be naive to assume that no sexual assault or abuse happeend. Even Hezbollah (a much more disciplined army) will have cases like that.

I think there probably were some? Pretty sure some released hostages described abuse and sexual assault.

I hate Hamas, as a Palestinian, but Hamas fighters are not demons… they are not angels either.

Keep in mind it’s always possible that they do this partly for PR. But at least they were transparent, even if they did in to look good. After all, next to Israel, anyone would look good.

Disgusting! Israel constantly tries to demonize Palestinian men, but we know the truth. We know they are prying people out of rubble with their own hands, driving ambulances, risking their lives for others, and hugging their dead children as they bury them.