i do think renekton is grossly overpriod in pro play. for years now tbh. i will say tho with his recent buffs and itemization he is in an ok spot rn, i get that people like the idea of a stable blindable top laner, i think there’s better options tho. plus renekton has some giga unwinnable matchups that nobody seems to punish the pick with

i think jayce is actually really good, great with poke comps, also has good matchups into a lot of meta mids. i don’t watch a ton of proplay so idk how effective it is but judging from what you said i assume it loses a lot, which surprises me.