They’ve got a perfect storm building here. Significant price increases, a recession thats likely to officially hit sometime just after release, tariffs, and a growing disdain for Nintendo’s anti piracy efforts.
They better hope that the performance increases make it technically prohibitive to emulate.
Also the expensive SDHCe cards and the game-key cartridges because games are too big to fit on the standard 64GB carts. That will add to the cost even more and the whole thing is confusing/laughable!
64GB is standard? Nintendo is really nowhere near making a console like PlayStation or Sony, huh. Mental of them think they have any power to set the prices. Very few people are going to get their console outside of a sale. As for games, I hope they get pirated
That’s the game cart size. The switch 2 comes with 256GB built in and is expandable.
That’s said, the Switch was also expandable. I put a 256GB card in and like 55+ games later (only 7 are digital though) I still have plenty of room. Switch/Switch 2 games aren’t nearly as big as Xbox or PS5 games are. I’ve not even cared about how much storage I’ve got free on my Switch in forever… where as my PS5 got a 2TB upgrade and I still have to keep an eye on it from time to time.
Have you met nintendo fanboys tho?
I bought a switch, just because my nephew is that age and it seemed easier than letting him use my steam account, that he then can’t take home and stuff. The last console i owned was a xbox 360, so i didn’t really know anything. I got the switch and thought you can’t go wrong with mario kart. The game was something over 60 bucks and i thought that’s crazy and googled that the game was then like 8 years old. I bought it used and i found their dlc system pretty disgusting and predatory, since they knew it’s for kids and they dangle their dlc in front of them at all times so the parents will buy it eventually.
Anyway, i asked in a nintendo forum if that was normal for switch games, because i genuinely had no idea how they operated. I caught so much shit there. People telling me that it’s a good game and the dlc is super worth it and it’s best to just buy it, so the kids stop clicking on it and whatever. These guys buy a switch 2 no matter what and Nintendo knos that damn well
Ouch. I can imagine what fanatics are like, they always come out of the woodwork to chew on controversial media aha
On Android I got this Mario Run app, was really promising with a cute little base to customise and a lot of replayability, but three levels in and it wants you to pay £10 to unlock the rest. Hooks you in, then demands payment. I just feel like that’s a surefire way to get money off the financially unwise.
I had the OG Switch and Mariokart 8, it’s really good but not ‘sink your life savings into’ good lol.
Yeah, I wouldn’t count on emulator developers being paid out. That feels like either bait, or maybe even Nintendo buying the emulator to use on the switch 2 for backwards compatibility.
Allegedly, not all switch games will be backwards compatible, leading to people assuming it’s emulated rather than similar architecture. Either way, it’s an ARM CPU, an Nvidia GPU that’s probably DLSS capable and maybe even capable of framegen. It sounds like it may be tougher to emulate, but definitely still possible on more modern hardware. It’s gonna be neat to watch.
The thing about growing anti-piracy disdain - Nintendo doesn’t care about it because pirates don’t buy their stuff. Nintendo sells stuff for children so they are not that interested in building brand awareness by being lenient on anti-piracy enforcement. By the time their customers have money they are playing Call of Duty and Nintendo ain’t about that. Just a different strategy compared to Microsoft or Sony.
Nintendo sells stuff for children of all ages, and I would bet that a significant customer base is adults who want to continue their childhood hobby. Not enough to make a console unprofitable, but surely enough to make a dent. And I have to say as an adult Nintendo kid who is an unabashed pirate, I actually still own a significant amount of switch games. Pirates don’t pay for everything, but not every pirate pays for nothing.
If Nintendo started to cater to that niche demographic they wouldn’t be able to balance that with being effectively a toy company. If Nintendo wouldn’t be the kind of assholes they are sometimes, they wouldn’t make games worth playing too. What they’re doing confuses people because they’re the only ones to do that. I think that’s worth preserving regardless and other people must think that too, otherwise they wouldn’t be so angry about Nintendo approach to roms and stuff - they want to play it even after so much time passed.
I don’t think it’s a niche market, personally. But of course I could be wrong, it would be neat to do a study. I assume Nintendo adults like us with kids makes up a noticeable number of sales. Sure, there’s probably a larger market in New kids in general, but I wouldn’t discount this demographic completely.
But I agree wholeheartedly with you that Nintendo’s stance towards its customers is abrasive at best.
Yep, and Nintendo targets parents that want their kids to have childhood without guns and tits. It’s not like kids have no say in this either but parents will be more likely to go with Nintendo if they care.
They’ve got a perfect storm building here. Significant price increases, a recession thats likely to officially hit sometime just after release, tariffs, and a growing disdain for Nintendo’s anti piracy efforts.
They better hope that the performance increases make it technically prohibitive to emulate.
Also the expensive SDHCe cards and the game-key cartridges because games are too big to fit on the standard 64GB carts. That will add to the cost even more and the whole thing is confusing/laughable!
64GB is standard? Nintendo is really nowhere near making a console like PlayStation or Sony, huh. Mental of them think they have any power to set the prices. Very few people are going to get their console outside of a sale. As for games, I hope they get pirated
It’s not standard as devs can choose a few diferent sizes but according to CD Projekt Red the highest capacity available is 64GB.
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That’s the game cart size. The switch 2 comes with 256GB built in and is expandable.
That’s said, the Switch was also expandable. I put a 256GB card in and like 55+ games later (only 7 are digital though) I still have plenty of room. Switch/Switch 2 games aren’t nearly as big as Xbox or PS5 games are. I’ve not even cared about how much storage I’ve got free on my Switch in forever… where as my PS5 got a 2TB upgrade and I still have to keep an eye on it from time to time.
Have you met nintendo fanboys tho? I bought a switch, just because my nephew is that age and it seemed easier than letting him use my steam account, that he then can’t take home and stuff. The last console i owned was a xbox 360, so i didn’t really know anything. I got the switch and thought you can’t go wrong with mario kart. The game was something over 60 bucks and i thought that’s crazy and googled that the game was then like 8 years old. I bought it used and i found their dlc system pretty disgusting and predatory, since they knew it’s for kids and they dangle their dlc in front of them at all times so the parents will buy it eventually.
Anyway, i asked in a nintendo forum if that was normal for switch games, because i genuinely had no idea how they operated. I caught so much shit there. People telling me that it’s a good game and the dlc is super worth it and it’s best to just buy it, so the kids stop clicking on it and whatever. These guys buy a switch 2 no matter what and Nintendo knos that damn well
Ouch. I can imagine what fanatics are like, they always come out of the woodwork to chew on controversial media aha
On Android I got this Mario Run app, was really promising with a cute little base to customise and a lot of replayability, but three levels in and it wants you to pay £10 to unlock the rest. Hooks you in, then demands payment. I just feel like that’s a surefire way to get money off the financially unwise.
I had the OG Switch and Mariokart 8, it’s really good but not ‘sink your life savings into’ good lol.
That’s going to be their problem with this. Is the tech similar to the switch, just more powerful?
If so, im guessing there will be a huge effort to make an emulator. And im guessing it will happen quickly.
It seems that ryujinx’s creator got a big check to stop, so maybe others are hoping for the same.
Yeah, I wouldn’t count on emulator developers being paid out. That feels like either bait, or maybe even Nintendo buying the emulator to use on the switch 2 for backwards compatibility.
Allegedly, not all switch games will be backwards compatible, leading to people assuming it’s emulated rather than similar architecture. Either way, it’s an ARM CPU, an Nvidia GPU that’s probably DLSS capable and maybe even capable of framegen. It sounds like it may be tougher to emulate, but definitely still possible on more modern hardware. It’s gonna be neat to watch.
Yeah, his kneecaps and zero cents.
The thing about growing anti-piracy disdain - Nintendo doesn’t care about it because pirates don’t buy their stuff. Nintendo sells stuff for children so they are not that interested in building brand awareness by being lenient on anti-piracy enforcement. By the time their customers have money they are playing Call of Duty and Nintendo ain’t about that. Just a different strategy compared to Microsoft or Sony.
Nintendo sells stuff for children of all ages, and I would bet that a significant customer base is adults who want to continue their childhood hobby. Not enough to make a console unprofitable, but surely enough to make a dent. And I have to say as an adult Nintendo kid who is an unabashed pirate, I actually still own a significant amount of switch games. Pirates don’t pay for everything, but not every pirate pays for nothing.
If Nintendo started to cater to that niche demographic they wouldn’t be able to balance that with being effectively a toy company. If Nintendo wouldn’t be the kind of assholes they are sometimes, they wouldn’t make games worth playing too. What they’re doing confuses people because they’re the only ones to do that. I think that’s worth preserving regardless and other people must think that too, otherwise they wouldn’t be so angry about Nintendo approach to roms and stuff - they want to play it even after so much time passed.
I don’t think it’s a niche market, personally. But of course I could be wrong, it would be neat to do a study. I assume Nintendo adults like us with kids makes up a noticeable number of sales. Sure, there’s probably a larger market in New kids in general, but I wouldn’t discount this demographic completely.
But I agree wholeheartedly with you that Nintendo’s stance towards its customers is abrasive at best.
Kids don’t buy $500 consoles with $90 games. Parents do.
Yep, and Nintendo targets parents that want their kids to have childhood without guns and tits. It’s not like kids have no say in this either but parents will be more likely to go with Nintendo if they care.