From reading the posts and comments here, it’s clear that not everyone knows the situation. It’s frustrating that most discussions are gated by two narratives:
- “Players don’t know balance, so why should Riot listen?”
- “Players just abuse Riot, so how could they find good feedback?”
What Vel’Koz mains have done is provide a lot of civil and detailed feedback.
Now, here’s the issue: it’s not even that the suggestions are bad, it’s that Phreak (in his video) pretends no one has ever given suggestions, and that players just say that Vel’Koz sucks. Even the most biased people here can see, from the posts, that this is just untrue.
This is complete disrespect by Phreak against his players, and is what people are angry about. It’s such an insane attitute to have, which hurts communication and relationship with the players.
So I hope you can better understand the case now, and make your own judgement.
You still don’t understand. He’s failed on the first level, which is listening, as outlined in my post.
What if I was tasting your scrambled eggs and I said, “Hey, to improve, you could better control the temperature, put in more salt and use a different pan.”
Then you go, “All you say is that my eggs are trash, that’s not helpful!”
See how rubbish this conversation is?
And it’s not all of Riot, it’s just Phreak. August, for example, is awesome in how he does his work and talks to people.