Hello, Just trying to gain some perspective here as I was at both dealers today and for the first time laid eyes and touched the interior of both the Ioniq 5 and ID4 and I was greatly disappointed with the interior quality of the Ioniq 5 in terms of material choices. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Ioniq looks good, tech is good, and specs are good. It’s pretty much scratchy hard plastic everywhere, even in high touch areas like door armrests. In contrast I checked out 2 ID4s afterwards and was pretty much “blown” away with the materials used - when having just seen the Ioniq 5.
Is this normal? EVs aren’t cheap vehicles and I understand the big part of cost are the electrical components like the battery, but the interior quality alone is greatly steering me towards an ID4 instead of the Ioniq 5… Along with an apparent 3 year wait for the Ioniq 5 AWD in Canada.
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Better car overall.
Faster charging speed, higher voltage, more range (trim depending), better software, etc.
Ferdinand Piëch is spinning in his grave.
This shitheap is what happens when the timecard-punching imbeciles are given the keys to the car-company castle. Had Piëch lived to see this, the homicide rate in Wolfsburg would have had a dramatic spike when the id4 launched.
Am I being harsh? Yes, but remember the BMW E65 7-series (catastrophe); the W220 S-Class (Dodge Neon-quality POS) or the ’08 WRX (an insult to its own brand.)
This is one of those moments.
Does the thing drive ok? Sure: VW has built hundreds of millions of cars. Surely they’ve learned a thing or two. It’s fine.
But from the cartoon styling to the disasterous UX, its gimmick-to-function factor is the inverse of what VW has been since its genesis.
The well-documented lack of rear window controls and non-illuminated controls are just the beginning.
The gauges and shifter are a craptastic version of the BMW i3’s, which were laughable a decade ago. See slide 10 for the full range of display customization 🤦♂️
You can’t adjust the driver aids while moving.
I almost threw a brick through the fucking window when it wouldn’t open its door on a hill unless I pushed as it was unlatching.
The rat’s nest under the hood tells us everything we need to know.
An all-new, from-the-ground-up platform should not need visible reinforcements. This scares me — where else did VW skimp?
Add up the negative space up front, it’d make a big frunk. There isn’t one tells us that the teams at VW worked against each other, not for the good of the whole.
Disclosure: I own an e-Golf. It’s everything a VW should be (with exception of range.) Quick, well-crafted, gimmick-free, efficient, handles well, easy to use, and packed full of features that make daily life easier.
No gimmicks, unlike this. VWs should earn you respect from grownups; not be rolling cartoons of poor design.
This thing is a comicbook joke. I’d only recommend buying one is because IONIQ 5 isn’t available yet and you need something to ram into a tree for fun. Given the visible reinforcements up front, I’m not sure I’d recommend actually being in the id4 for the impact.
Man, does it miss the mark.
It isn’t more popular looking at the sales figures. ID.4 and Ioniq 5 both sold 10-11k units last quarter in the US, in Europe the ID.4 is the third best selling EV this year, the Ioniq 5 is about the 15th.
There are plenty of good reasons to prefer the Ioniq 5 to the ID.4, but the ID.4 gets excessive criticism online and by reviewers, I think because it is a less exciting design and appeals to ordinary people, because people dislike VW because of dieselgate, and because VW were seen as challenging Tesla, so Tesla fans got defensive. The software also was not very good, and these perceptions remain even though the issues seem to have been solved. The new version of the ID.4 actually has software features that I’d like to see others adopt, like an ability to manually precondition the battery, and an ability to see the car’s current maximum charge speed potential.
If you’re looking at the ID.4 I’d make sure to get the new version with the v4 software. The worst issues with the ID.4 are that the OTA system hasn’t worked, and the old cars can’t get the new software.
I test drove both recently at top trims ID4 is missing a bit in US, there is no HUD, no ventilated seats (the trim with HUD is impossible to find). Also the small driver display was hard to use without a HUD. Generally the display interface was worse. The trunk space was also less usable since id4 trunk was narrower and 2nd row wasn’t as comfortable.
Also VW didn’t adopt NACS in US as the only remaining company so that plays a role too.
Curious what year you were looking at? Your comment about “hard scratchy plastic” males me wonder if it’s a 2024… they downgraded the interior. One of the reasons I chose it was because the interior is nice in my 2023.
Nice comparison here:
For me, I didn’t like the generic crossover look of the ID4 and wanted something more hatchback like than SUV. I took a test drive of the Ioniq5 and loved it. I probably should have test driven the ID4, but when I’m looking at my car sitting next to them at the charging stations, the ID4 just looks boring AF next to my car.