1. Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets

2. Luka Doncic, Dallas Mavericks

3. Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers

4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Oklahoma City Thunder

5. Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics

The Next Five: Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Haliburton, Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James.

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-nov-24-2023-edition

  • K1ngCrimsnB
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    10 months ago

    I think Luka should be like 3 or 4 rn, he didn’t play to his standards this past week & lost 2 winnable games, & even Jokic should be dropped one spot. Also KD should be 6th at least, but maybe due to him losing without Booker he’s ranked that low

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      10 months ago

      Jokic has been losing without Jamal.

      Not saying Jokic should be moved down because of it because that would be ridiculous either way

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    10 months ago

    I feel like KD should be in the top 5. But then I look at the top 5 and I dunno who to remove. Maybe Tatum? KD has been unreal for more than a few games now.

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    10 months ago

    Don’t get me wrong, Ant has been balling, but KAT has been our best player since the Boston game.

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      10 months ago

      Since the Boston game:

      KAT: 25.4/8.6/3.1/1.1/1 on 58/50/90

      Ant: 24.6/5.4/5.4/1.9/0.5 on 43/34/86

      KAT has been more clutch as well with big shots against the Warriors and the Pelicans.

    • 0percentwinrateB
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      10 months ago

      He’s basically new Tatum. His team is very good even when he’s not on the floor. I’d still put him over Luka and Joel because you need to respect the record, and Shai clearly their #1 guy.

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        10 months ago

        It’s funny because Shai’s impact metrics are like top 2-3 in almost every stat.

        Only behind in Jokic

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          10 months ago

          The problem with EPM or other impact metrics is they aren’t reliable to quantify defensive impact. On/off analysis isn’t the end all method as well ofc. Either way, it still stands true that Shai #4 isn’t the most controversial thing here.

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    10 months ago

    Genuinely thought sga would be higher. Huge numbers on both ends of the court. Efficient %'s. Team is second in the west. Better record than philly and Dallas.

    How is he 4th in voting??

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    10 months ago

    What does KD need to do to make it to the top 5 lmao?

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      10 months ago

      Put up the exact same numbers but not be named Kevin Durant

      At a certain point being disliked in the media makes it almost impossible to climb up this ladder lol

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    10 months ago

    Donovan Mitchell is better than Anthony Edwards on every single stat except maybe DREB, which isn’t really a valuable stat because Donovan Mitchell has Mobley and Allen getting rebounds.

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      10 months ago

      Ant has more games played, on the number 1 seed in the West and plays elite (albeit somewhat inconsistent) one on one defense.

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    10 months ago

    Hali should be at least 4th imo. He’s arguably having a better offensive season than Jokic(not overall as good though. Jokic contributes rebounds and is actually a better defender)

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    10 months ago

    The “next 5” should be at the top of the list.

    Might be the best MVP leader board since Magic/Bird’s last few great seasons that aligned with guys like Dominique/Isiah/McHale then the classic mega stars like Jordan/Hakeem/Barkley/Ewing/Mailman really starting to take off.

    Hopefully they throw out the narratives – and let the best candidate win.

    Don’t think “team record” should matter all that much. Given how much parity there is. Unless we get some extreme like a team wins 70 plus games. OR, a team wins fewer than 20-25 games.

    Greek Freak, LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Tyrese Halliburton… could win this thing. Shai could win this thing. Heck, Chet Holmgren is balling out with a highly-efficient style. Give it to Chad Lincoln if he deserves it.

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    10 months ago

    Lol tyrese is better than giannis and lebron but somehow not better than Ant? Who tf makes these rankings. Like id take Giannis or lebron this season over tyrese but i would take tyrese this season over ant