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Author Harvey A. Silverglate noted that the typical American commits three felonies per day
I’m already over my quota for the day.
Also, I think there will be a lucrative market for technicians who can disable this “kill switch” in the computer system.
Of course they will make that a felony also, and Silverglate will have to up the count.
Boomer Ragebait TBH
Not just boomers, pretty much anyone who doesn’t understand anything but “gubberment bad”
I own older cars and plan to keep it that way, try that in a small town!!!
I’m willing to wager that law enforcement vehicles will have this technology disabled. "because law enforcement needs to drive erratically to do their jobs.’
And wouldn’t be surprised if private vehicles of law enforcement would have this disabled as well “Because we want our off duty police officers to participate in police actions unhindered.”
If your car was purchased with a loan, lease, or you are driving a rental it already has this. If it isn’t, you can find a way to disable it legally. As is, it’s an obvious public safety measure. Not sure what the problem is.
The police already have the de facto ability to stop your car by force. Isn’t it better for them to stop it without force so fewer innocent people are hurt (including potentially the driver)?
This isn’t even the worst invasion of privacy regarding vehicles in the past month.
SCOTUS voted it’s ok for car manufacturer’s to capture and keep your text / voice messages if you’re using things like Android Auto / Apple Car play.
My exact thoughts when I saw this headline. I guess we’re going to ignore the actual privacy violations of manufacturers taking your phone and location data and selling it. With no opt out option.
Just build fucking trains and half decent public transportation instead of dumb shit like this
It’s all in how it’s implemented.
In theory, I don’t hate the idea of something that prevents drunk idiots from even starting their car, provided it’s essentially just an immobilizer and does nothing more than force the driver to find a ride.
Drunks have been finding ways to get around those things since they’ve been invented. It won’t stop anyone.
Personally I think it needs to do one better. It not only needs to force the driver to find another ride but offer options for getting that ride. Drunk drivers are absolutely disgusting, but leaving people stranded is a bit of a liability I would think.
In that article they point out multile news outlets saying this is false, not the first time this happens, there have been videos of many different TV news outlets talking about a story and using exact wording, almost like they were told what to say.
Hmmm…. Sinclair media?
For those who don’t know, https://youtu.be/aGIYU2Xznb4?si=2h7Xo4_0cAqzcAQ7
Yeah ironically the ‘conspiracy’ here is that super privatized media in the US is much more narrative driven rather than outlets that depend on widespread small donations like NPR.
While I donate monthly to my local NPR, the level of journalism NPR puts out for free is so awesome. I’ve listened to every episode of This American Life, Embedded, Serial, and others. Plus the mini series audio releases like S Town and The Kids of Rutherford County are old school, top tier levels of journalism. I can’t know if everything is reported accurately but, goddamn, if it’s not compelling story telling.
Npr is left wing democratic blah blah blah
Not true. They show both sides when there aren’t any.
I don’t even think Sinclair is the worst offender. I’m pretty sure Gray media has a bigger chokehold
Sinclair owns something like 75% of all local broadcast affiliates.
I believe the actual figure is that they own a local station in 75% of markets. Not as bad as 75% of total stations, but still way too big
USA Today is one news outlet saying false. Here’s how they worded it, “experts told USA TODAY the bill does not direct a kill switch to be implemented … Rather, the bill in question directs a federal agency to require technology that would detect driver impairment and disable the vehicle in that scenario.” Um, doesn’t that sound like a kill switch?
And furthermore according to the state, they need to be calibrated all the time for $85. I know a guy that had one for years.
Reddit is huge when it comes to members, maybe as many people can try and start a class action lawsuit against the government regarding privacy and safety. Because you know criminals will be coming up with ways to create electronics to do the same thing that police and other government agency’s will be able to do to stop your car while driving!
Theres no need to mandate this. GM already does this for free lol. Its pretty ironic actually, all of the “American” brands actually have this technology while the Japanese and Germans cars dont
Yes but onstar won’t arbitrarily shut you down for driving like a hackass. (Trust me, I drive like a jackass)
It will shutdown your car if you report it stolen or the cops call them, i.e. actively pursuing said vehicle.
Yes but onstar won’t arbitrarily shut you down for driving like a jackass.
Neither will this. It’s an alcohol-impairment feature, as per the article and the direct text of the bill itself (Page 403). It doesn’t have anything to do with driving styles.
How would your car know you’re alcohol impaired? What methodology will the car use to determine this? The least invasive one I can think of would be poor driving, weaving in and out of lanes, etc. So it must be monitoring that (or something) and arbitrarily decide that you’re impaired, and shut the car down.
Next they’ll take speeding, I’m sure.
Yeah, I’ve heard of OnStar helping a lot of people with stolen cars, after accidents, etc. Not the government taking control of cars from their lawful owners. But it wouldn’t be Reddit if we didn’t spice things up with some paranoia and complaints about America.
Disclaimer: this post in no way meant to encourage people to purchase GM vehicles.
It’s worse, if the cops can do it anyone can do it. It just a matter of finding the keys.
All Onstar equipped vehicles? or only OnStar subscribers
because I know precisely no one that actually pays the subscription
There was a story a while back about a stolen car with a baby in the back seat.
OnStar wouldn’t help because the owner hadn’t paid.Wait, no, that was Volkswagen
OnStar wouldn’t help with a baby locked in a car
This post is like a roller coaster of news.
Thank god I only drive shitboxes
Oh. They got kill switch for those, too.
Nah.
My 2017 manual transmission Mirage has almost no technology in it. And I fucking love it.
Judge me all you want. But I love this car. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. It has just enough to get the job done and nothing extra.
There’s something uniquely charming about a car that is utilitarian with bulletproof reliability.
I like how they have timing chain and cable clutch. Very simple and robust.
Dude… I’m telling you. People give the car so much shit here. And it’s true it’s slow and not exciting like other cars.
But when I get in that car in the morning… I know for sure I am getting to work that day. It’s literally the most reliable car I’ve ever had.
It’s the best 90s shitbox, only it’s from the 2010s!
Wish I nabbed one back when they were selling for like 8-9k usd. I won’t pay full price for one though.
2017 is a great year. Even the higher tech cars used 3G for their connectivity, which is dead. So you can still have Apple Carplay / Android Auto, backup cameras, various sensors (to taste), etc, but your car has no way to phone home or get any kind of remote signals from anyone but yourself in the car.
You aren’t kidding, that thing has a distributor. I haven’t seen that on a car in almost 20 years.
What’s the significance of a distributor if you don’t mind me asking?
Is that good or bad?
It’s not necessarily bad, just old technology. Before you had computer-controlled ignition timing, they used distributors- it’s a small circular thing about the size of a small bowl with a wire lead on a pole that spins around and hits electrical leads spaced around it to trigger the spark plug ignitions. They are pretty simple but they can wear out.
Interesting.
Thanks for the explanation!
We just call them potholes here.
In addition to the privacy issues I don’t have a lot of faith in how this technology will age.
The average age of cars is now 12.5 years. People regularly drive their cars for much longer than that. It might work great when new, but what about 10, 15 or 20 years from now? Are you just going to be stuck in some parking lot because your car thinks you’re drunk?
… I’m not seeing a kill switch in the bill? It says “limit vehicle operation”.
The technology already exists to limit vehicle speed. This is probably what would happen, the car would limit you to 65 MPH.
I could see the vehicle not starting, but there’s no way vehicles will shut down while driving, that’s obviously dangerous.
No they won’t shut off the vehicle, obviously. The ECU will limit engine power gradually over several minutes.
I’m assuming more like limp home mode than 65, or completely disabling the car.
No one is going to argue that ISN’T gross. This isn’t mutually exclusive. We should all be able to agree drunk driving/reckless driving etc. is terrible while also recognizing the Fed is overstepping.