I used to be Ancient V 2 years ago when I stopped playing. Recently I started to play dota2 again, but I was calibrated to Archon 1. After many games I’m fluctuating between Crusader V and Archon IV…
Even though I’m at much lower level than 2 years ago, I noticed even CRUSADER people are incredible. I mean people use aggro all the time, they use manta dodge(!), when I’m playing hoodwink and throw my 1st spell to bushwack the enemy, the enemy destroys the tree in that 0.3 second, they deny eachother or themselves at neutral camp if possible, they carry dust, they cut waves(!), etc.
As I see the main problem in this bracket is the urge to overextend and dive like crazy, not playing for objectives and lastly bad target priorization. As a support player I always try to help my team making the right decision, but this rarely happens. Apart from this, I’m really surprised how mechanically advanced people are in the crusader bracket.
As I was missing for 2 years, I would be interested in your observation. Are players this much better on avarage, or am I really getting old and bad? :)
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Yes.
Supports are richer & can afford utility items
Carries can no longer destroy supports on networth alone
High mechanical skill & precision is needed by carries to win team fights more than ever
No not really
Most average players are a lot better than they used to be. I’ve noticed people focusing creep aggro onto the ranged creep in literally every game. Before no one did it. Same with pulling. I think Dota plus has actually pushed towards that a lot. I do also believe that there are less people in legend to divine. With it decreasing at each medal. So being divine is a lot harder than it used to be.
Yes. When I first played dota few years ago I calibrated at Archon. I then played Dota on and off, learned many things and climbed to Legend. I came back this year and calibrated at Archon again. Which means I’ve improved but still got the same rank as a few years ago.
MMR Inflation > Skill inflation, at least in the upper brackets. A better answer is that after not playing for 2 years, it’s a combination of both rustiness + playing in different circumstances (different map, different meta heroes, lots of things to re-learn).
I would take people’s testimonies saying the opposite with a grain of salt, since there’s an incentive to jerk themselves off and think them being 3k now = 5-6k a few years back.
Mechanically, yes. You used be able to get to 5k+ with superb mechanics alone and people 2k-3k didn’t even know how to last hit properly. Now most 2k-3k players are at least decent at last hitting/denying and can cast their spells in fights.
Conceptually, no. People are still just as dumb as ever. The arguments I see from some averaged rank players and the things they do in game are really wild sometimes. The average player still has very poor conceptual understanding of the game and frequently makes glaring mistakes in basic concepts; how to lane, where to be on the map, where to fight, where to provide vision, what items to buy, power spikes, win conditions, etc.
Game is just too random right now. Play only Carry or Offlane you’re super comfortable with even going late, play good in the lane to compensate for your greedy pick, scale and win.
heralds deward and buy bkbs so yea
Yes nowadays immortals will easily compete against first TI teams.
Agreed with your post
Yep, since this is a sticky game, skill level rise over time
Yes, because this is a normal thing
Maybe not because the entire ranked ladder was recently reset when 7.33 was released and the ranked distribution is still settling down. Your old and new ranks aren’t exactly 1:1…
It takes time to grind mmr. Can be as long as 6 months 2 years. Lots of people in ranks that are nit entirely accurate since ranks got reset. 7.33 wasnt that long ago.
I was or always a divine player since dota released. Stopped playing dota 1 year and I back to guardian. Lmfao. Now I’m just a turbo enjoyer.
yes its getting better over time
lets put a scale for (potato/pro) dota2 match from 0 to 100 meaning 0 = complete potato game and 100 = complete pro 12k mmr game
now people sitting at crusader lets say they were at 40/100
after couple of years, there are still players stuck at this rank and most probably they learned many things and their skill level got higher but not to a limit where they can climb to immortal for example, you can see players with 5000-10000 matches in 2-3k mmr which is awful but it does exist, their skill is absolutely higher than themselves when they had 1500-2000 matches only, they might have learned every single aspect of the game like the ones you mentioned, but they still make a crusader gameplay for some reason they are unable to get rid of their old habitsnote: I was 5k mmr in 2016, left dota2 from 2017 to 2022 and they gave me legend 5
It feels so trash to be at very lower rank than what you used to have, but after playing it seemed to be the correct decision, I was missing many important things while people kept playing all day long for many years. Now I got 7k mmr and very appreciating that they didn’t place me 5k instantly and gave me lower rank after a long break, since I learned A LOT