There are instances that federate together as a single sort of entity.
So, are there other entities? Meaning, is there a group of Lemmy instances somewhere outside of the existing ones we see here?
And, how do I get there, and which one don’t have people from the USA?
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Judging by your comments, you might like hexbear, lemmygrad or one of the non-liberal anarchist instances (I don’t remember which ones are good).
IIRC there were a couple of nazi instances that were instantly defederated by everyone except each other. But I’m pretty sure they are both dead now. Good.
Yes, all Nazis should die. But apparently calling for a Nazi to die will get you banned. Logic that doesn’t work in my brain.
I got perma banned from reddit because I said something bad about a nazi. Reddit rejected my appeal saying “I suggested violence”
The Nazis run Lemmy too my friend.
You are allowed to call death to Nazis on hexbear
Specific/credible death threats put instance admins in serious legal jeopardy (a.k.a. fedposting).
That’s the main reason for it.
I’m aware you support silencing resistance.
The person replied their honest opinion on the issue and your reply was fairly dickish. Good luck looking for a new place for friends!
You’re here, and that’s why I dislike it.
You could host your own and decide for yourself with which you want to federate. Or just block whatever you don’t like.
Easiest is probably to just subscribe to the communities you like and only browse the subscribed communities. And then block instances/users you don’t want to see.
Only other thing I have seen is instances not federating at all. Lemmy and probably Piefed as well support that out of the box. In that case they are just normal forums.
Don’t know any Lemmy server that does that but Truth Social is actually running Mastodon and not federating with the rest of the world. Not that anyone would want to federate with that shit show anyways.
another example that’s similar like truth social that uses activitypub but a lot of the fediverse defederate with them is Threads by Meta, their own version of Twitter.
Yeah, I’ll skip that truth social haha.
The trouble with self hosting is that leads to credit card trails (unless crypto, and still) and I don’t think asking for Trump to be assassinated in no joking way is something you want so easily attached to an identity. Make them work a little bit for it.
Check out this graph made by /u/Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz. It shows defederations between major Threadiverse instances. I don’t think any instance groups are completely isolated, but some like Lemmygrad and Hexbear have been defederated by over half of the major instances.
This is quite unreadable… too much overlap for me to understand it :(
I think that illustrates how messy this whole federation thing. but it’s a mess that I somewhat welcome as that’s the beauty in it if that makes sense.
Yeah, the problem is that all of the domain names on that image… can suck a dick. (Pardon my Murrkkkan)
Basically, everyone (with power) on here has made it very clear they don’t want me, or my views that don’t agree with USA, Russia, or China.
So… I want a place that just doesn’t have 🇺🇸🇷🇺🇨🇳. Everyone else is fine. I don’t want .world people (for example), interacting with me on any level whatsoever.
Kinda sounds like the antithesis of the internet.
It mostly doesn’t really know borders. You’d need like a passport check to ensure such a thing. Maybe just stick to a non-english platform or instance.
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I don’t think that that’s a thing on Lemmy. You probably have a better chance of finding old-school forums where that applies.
you’re better off not using lemmy at all then. I never really got the discrimination for the different instances anyway, it’s true that certain people tend to hang out on certain instances, but discounting everything just because of the link they chose when creating an account is dumb imo.
The problem isn’t the instances themselves. It’s the users. Most of them have accounts on multiple instances anyway.
I’m really not trying to be argumentative but I just think I need to find other friends—but I don’t plan to be homeless during the transition.
Lemmy is fine. The code is fine. But maybe you’re right.
But one this is for sure, I gotta go (from here).
as i see it, the point of lemmy and mastodon is the federation, so the infrastructure can be decentralized but the content on there isn’t. like other guy said, probably better to search for isolated forums for topics that you like. upside is that stalkers will have a way harder time tracking all of your online activity.
Yeah. I just want another federation.
And I’m not worried about stalkers on Lemmy. Admins and mods make it very impossible to stalk me since I have to get a new account every week lol. Frankly, if a person has an account over 6 months, I assume they are just part of the problem 🤪
I know admins can power trip, but i don’t believe that just so happens to be the case for every single instance you sign up for just because your political viewpoints are different, unless you’re incredibly confrontational about them or you’re a literal nazi fascist; which no one here likes, twitter would be a better place then.
For obvious reasons i don’t have access to comments on your previous accounts, but from what you said i would try re-evaluating whether it really is true that everyone else is the problem, and you’re 100% blameless.
I’m an anarchist. I believe the problems in the world at this moment originate almost entirely from the governments of the USA, Russia, and China. And anyone who is willing to simp for any of them isn’t worth being on the bottom of my shoe.
Early on, I used the same email on Lemmy.world, discuss.social, and lemmy.zip. I pissed off one of the mods from .world and all three accounts got deleted.
I don’t use multiple accounts all at once. Dogpiling is “big three” tactic. They just sit there gaining age until I need a new one. So totally unused accounts got deleted. You KNOW that means they share data.
That’s a problem for me. It should be for you. I just want… better people. (Not you specifically of course)
There arent many that fully isolate itself and defederate with all other servers. Beehaw was of the earlier ones that approached the federation with strict moderation walls.
No I want the opposite of beehaw, they aren’t nice at all despite their slogan.
How do you mean “the ones we see here”?
You can also poke around fedidb: https://fedidb.com/servers?limit=20I don’t think that exists, but you might be interested in what Bonfire calls “archipelago mode”. It’s where instead of open federation being the default, an instance deliberately federates with selected other instances, which can result in a small group of instances cut off from the rest.
That runs the risk of being an echo chamber.
I’m fine with opposing views, I just want those to be from people outside the 3 major countries.
