• chewypoops@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    One of the important tactics to reach different people is not to use derogatory names like “carnists” to describe them. Even if you have a good point to make, I am less likely to listen to you if you’re calling me names.

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      3 hours ago

      The whole idea of a multitude of tactics is that some tactics work on some people and other tactics work on other people. I know of many people who wouldn’t pay attention to any criticism if they were being coddled and their oppressive behavior being tiptoed around, whereas being ridiculed and called names that accurately describe their unexamined cruelty and hypocrisy is what actually gets through to them.

      Also, maybe you deserve to be called those names and it’s the silent witnesses seeing the “debate” who are the ones whose minds are being changed. There’s a real self-centered arrogance to assume that when your hypocrisy is being called out that it’s because those calling it out are trying to change your mind as an individual, and even worse to think that you deserve to be babied and pampered into doing so.

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        3 hours ago

        and even worse to think that you deserve to be babied and pampered into doing so.

        Exactly this last line. Perpetrators of oppression and violence don’t have the right to chose how they’re criticized, protested, and eventually, hopefully, defeated.

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      3 hours ago

      “Carnist” is derogatory? From an etymological analysis, it seems rather apt

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      4 hours ago

      Famously we didn’t do mean things like “name calling” to slave owners and Nazi slaughterhouse officers and they listened and stopped being bad.

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      Just kidding! STFU and be better, asshole.